"But those who would be left uninsured have drawn little attention. This is in part because their ranks would include many who choose not to get health insurance, even though they can afford it such as some healthy people under 30, who have little effect on rising health-care costs because they rarely go to the doctor. Though starting in 2014, individuals would face fines if they do not buy coverage, some may still refuse."
The idea that they are charging a seperate "Fee" or "Chrage" for this service, rather than getting it from other sources such as regular state/federal taxes or the new increase in tobacco taxes to fund this project, on top of making it manditory to purchase a service with a FINE if you dont is WRONG.
What bothers me about Obama is his arrogance in trying to dictate to America that his bull shit health care plan is anything more than getting more tax money out of people. If Obama was a REAL AMERICAN he would have found another way to fund this bill, rather than making healthcare "available" to all Americans, he has made it a MANDATORY "obligation" with a FINE. That is just SOOOOOOOO WRONG on so many levels that he dont dare even implement the plan until after his running for re-election. I personally hope this guy gets voted out in the next election. I have given him too many chances and bennifits of the doubt. His arrogant "Thinking" that he is giving America health care, all the while sending out bills and fining people for not buying something is not only appaling, its just plain Wrong.
I dont see things changing for the better. I see it becoming another intervention in the freedoms and liberties of Americans nation wide. What will be next? Government Car Insurance? Government Motors? Eh.... I guess we are already there!
What a total bunch of horse shit. The people who are poor will still be substadised leaving others to pick up the tab. Younger people in good health going without insurance will be paying a fine for being healthy, and the government will turn your doctors experince into something a lot like going to the post office, DMV or Secritary of State.
What about all these new Sin taxes? You know, the ones turning a $1.50 pack of cigarettes into almost 6 dollars? How about the new taxes on Booze? How about the soon legalazation of weed tax revenues? WHAT ABOUT ALL THAT MONEY YOU GREEDY BASTARDS!? Didnt the government say all of these tax increases were to offset health care? These people are fucking us in the ass and giving NOTHING in return but a slap on the ass!
I am pretty sure America is doing just fine. Obama ushered in this idea that America was in a recession, his campaign basiclly killed the moral of many Americans with the false hope of Change for the good.
I dont like what I see. I dont like thinking my kids will have to grow up with such bullshit. I think its high time for some REAL CHANGE! CHANGE FOR THE GOOD.
Too bad all the dumb ass Democrats were too busy to ask what kind of "Change" we would be getting, because by the time Obama is done we wont even have "Change" in our pockets!
-- Edited by SELLC on Sunday 3rd of January 2010 08:32:11 PM
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You know the Iraq war has cost us more than this health care reform bill, and we haven't figured out any way to pay for it... Is that why you so blindly support all of Bush's wars? Don't you find it at least somewhat noble that even though you don't agree with the Democrat's policies, or how they pay for them, that at least they find a way to pay for their policies nonetheless?
Here is a thread about how to improve healthcare and some idiot is going to bring up the past wars? Why dont we just bring up WW1 and WW2 while were at it!? It has about as much to do with the healthcare as the Iraq war!
What does Iraq have to do with the pitfalls of the current healthcare bill? Can anyone tell me? I dont see Obama pulling out of Iraq, if anything he is expanding the war over there.
This is a regular Democatic move. When something isnt right and people take notice, shift the topic to the past. It works even better for them when that past takes place during a Republican president. It doesnt even matter if the Republicans were right or wrong, just so long as the topic gets changed.
Everyone is tired of that Bull Shit now days PowerStroker. What say you just answer the fucking question!?
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You know this additude of yours and many other Democrats that you can "Go buy insurance and get over it" is what will bring down the house. If you thought Americans got pissed about the Iraq war, just wait until the new administration starts fucking with things a little closer to home like Insurance.
I don't think many people share your point of veiw, and all the recent pollings seem to show Obama has lost a lot of his support. The only hope Obama has is that most of the 30 and under crowd never get wind of what he's up to, or else he might not see enough time in office to inflict this violation of rights on the nation. I guess its a good thing for him the youth he plans to shaft are off fucking, partying and playing video games instead of reading.
Not that it matters much, but Ill be waiting until all this shit passes before I make any health insurance changes. I guess its just too much to expect that the Democrats can offer up a good plan for insurance that really "Works" for the people, rather than the many attempts they have made to "Fuck" us. There is a reason they have had to re-draft this bill so many times. How quickly people forget all the shit they tried to throw at the wall at the on-set of this joke.
-- Edited by SELLC on Monday 4th of January 2010 03:07:44 AM
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