Let's see here, I'm tolerant of other religions and homosexuals, and I have more education than you. Hey, who's that handsome guy in the mirror there??? Oh it's me :)
We don't know how tolerant of other peoples religions you are. You talk a good talk in here, but we still dont know for sure. With regards to being tolarant to homosexuals, I am willing to go out on a limb here and state the obvious, you may be or may have been gay at one time the way you defend the fudge packers. Have you ever had your shit pushed in PowerStroker?
Education - the art of sitting in a classroom being instructed is not a measure of intellegence. After all, you are working for the man, and someone with such "education" should be a leader, not a follower. While you may be a real "Smart ass" that's not quite the same.
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I am not gay, never have been. I simply see a pattern in regard to how homosexuals are currently being treated, and how previously women, and other races have been treated. I choose to learn from our history instead of repeating it.
I am glad to hear you say that... People were teasing me about spending all day talking to my homosexual friend on this forum.
I agree that Women should have all the rights of men, however when it comes to homosexual rights, it's not quite the same. The men or women who choose to be gay still have all their rights, they are just looking for MORE RIGHTS because they choose to be gay. This is wrong, homosexuality is not something that will advance this nation. In fact if it became widespread it would HURT the nation. People have the right to be gay, no one is stopping them. But to get special consideraton for being gay? C'mon PowerStroker!
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What rights might that be PowerStroker? I am pretty sure that as individuals they have all the rights as every other American.
If you mean the right to be wed in holy matramony, well I am sorry but they will have to respect that sacred tradition for the hetrosexual couples. Perhaps they can figure out some other kind of union that does not disrespect the traditional wedding union between MEN and WOMEN.
If you are speaking from a military standpoint, well as I have mentioned before there are some very good reasons why hetrosexual men and women in the military would not want to be showering and bunking with folks who wish to be openly gay.
-- Edited by SELLC on Sunday 22nd of August 2010 08:34:33 PM
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I'm not suggesting that churches should embrace or be forced to perform a gay marriage. I'm suggesting that non church weddings... The kind that you can get at a court house or from Elvis, the kind sanctioned by a state should not be exclusionary of homosexual couples.
As to your second argument. There was a time when the idea of having women in the armed forces was frowned upon. There was a time that black soldiers were segregated from white soldiers. I would say that our current integrated military hasn't suffered at all from having blacks or women fighting shoulder to shoulder with our white boys.
Like I said PowerStroker, traditional weddings between and man and woman are sacred regardless where they take place. The homosexuals need to find some other form of union. No one can deny that homosexual unions are NOT NATURAL in the eyes of mother nature. The fact that almost 90% of churches will refuse to perform them should send a signal. These homos are just looking for something to complain about. Look how they carried on in Target. No one there gave a flying fuck.
With regards to blacks and women in the military... Well I have NEVER had a problem with that. There is a man's bathroom and a womans bathroom. Are you suggesting we should also make two more restrooms and sleeping quarters? One for homosexual women, and yet another for homosexual men? It's total crap PowerStroker. These fucking fag's are fucking up the nation, and for what?
I am going to tell you a little story PowerStroker...
Some 10 years ago before I was married I lived next to a woman who is now my wife. She worked at the Hilton and I would see her walking her dog every morning and I would think to myself "Damn that woman could be my wife". At the time I was younger and I had done well enough being self employed that I could just take 3-4 month breaks without issue, as I didn't have a family to feed, just myself. I later learned that she worked at the Hilton hotel and thought to myself, "What the hell". One problem.... Hotels are INFESTED with homosexuals. If I was to get close I needed to influltrate a management that was prodomently gay.
I consuled with my friends girlfriend who told me that the only way I was going to get a job was to appear "Gay". I took her advice and dressed in skin tight clothing to my interview. I held my beverage with my pinky finger extended while at the interview and cloaked my normal man voice to appear slightly feminine (sp?). Wouldn't you know it I was hired and given a night audit possition who oversaw the department my future wife was the director of. Countless times I had to endure the other night audit guy who was openly gay. My manager was gay and the head manager was gay. You don't know how frustrating it is getting hit on all the time by homo's as I was pretty fucking hot back then driving my little 5.0 Mustang. I soon learned that pretty much ALL of the women that worked there were hitting on me, some of them kicking pens off the table while standing on a chair asking me to pick them up, knowing they were wearing loose dresses. One of the women with a military backround cornered me one night telling me how hot and young I was, pressing her body agenst mine. Several others I fixed their vehicles and was offered a night out on the town. It was hard work trying to avoid the temptation some of these women. I was constantly asked to go out drinking by some of the male folks and after passing several times I think they got the impression I was playing hard to get.
Finally I got the oppetrunity to make my move on my woman, I kept it secret since the biggoted system there at the hotel was that you date other men within the hotel, but god fobid you dated a woman that was working. After me and my now wife were hitting it off pretty well, living together, and having sex I grew tired of all the advances that were being made. I started reffering to them as fags to their face, but for some reason this was a turn on to them. Finally at the Christmas party I arrived there with my woman as a couple. Shortly after I was fired, however my wife contenued to work there. Later in spring there was a company picnic and my wife naturally brought me, all the homo's hated me, they called me names like "Breeder" and basiclly couldn't stand me anymore as I ditched the voice and was no longer interested in catering to their cause, after all I had gotten what I came for. Anyway, after getting married to my wife and her getting pregnate I eventually insisted that she quit, and she did. Every since then life has been pretty much awsome and I wouldnt change a single thing.
My point here PowerStroker, thru this big story, is that Homosexuals are the biggots. They are the ones who are intolarant. If they were given a possition of power they would abuse it and show favortisim to their own homosexual crew. So dont fucking sit here and tell me how fucking hard done by they are! They are fucking hypocrytes! No better than anyone else!
Allowing them to get married in a traditional way is more about pissing off people than anything else. They can not reproduce and thus the idea they need a union such as a traditional hetrosexual marrige to foster a family is a non-issue. They only seek to discrace that which is sacred to hetrosexual couples. They are angry mis-wired people. They have no-one else on their minds but themselves, and they often times have an attitude problem thinking they are better than everyone else. Well guess what... I FUCKING SHOWED THEM!
-- Edited by SELLC on Sunday 22nd of August 2010 09:56:28 PM
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I don't even know how to respond to that, except to suggest that you are right... Homosexuals are just as flawed as straight people. I would submit that we may as well let them get married because half of them will surely get divorced anyway.
I just dont agree PowerStroker.... What's next? People getting married to animals? Cars? Tree's? I say we keep it sacred for the people that are getting married for the right reasons. These homo's can find another way to constimate (sp?) their love. One that will not clog up our legal system with divorce. The last thing I want to see while waiting for my cases to be heard is two homo's in a bitter seperation battle.
I can agree to disagree on this topic, but I want to state for the record allowing homosexuals to get married the same way hetrosexuals do is setting a bad precident for out children and mocks/undermines the hetrosexual union in the most profound way.
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What is to give light must endure burning -- Viktor Frankl
Like I said PowerStroker, traditional weddings between and man and woman are sacred regardless where they take place. The homosexuals need to find some other form of union. No one can deny that homosexual unions are NOT NATURAL in the eyes of mother nature. The fact that almost 90% of churches will refuse to perform them should send a signal. These homos are just looking for something to complain about. Look how they carried on in Target. No one there gave a flying fuck.
With regards to blacks and women in the military... Well I have NEVER had a problem with that. There is a man's bathroom and a womans bathroom. Are you suggesting we should also make two more restrooms and sleeping quarters? One for homosexual women, and yet another for homosexual men? It's total crap PowerStroker. These fucking fag's are fucking up the nation, and for what?
I am going to tell you a little story PowerStroker...
Some 10 years ago before I was married I lived next to a woman who is now my wife. She worked at the Hilton and I would see her walking her dog every morning and I would think to myself "Damn that woman could be my wife". At the time I was younger and I had done well enough being self employed that I could just take 3-4 month breaks without issue, as I didn't have a family to feed, just myself. I later learned that she worked at the Hilton hotel and thought to myself, "What the hell". One problem.... Hotels are INFESTED with homosexuals. If I was to get close I needed to influltrate a management that was prodomently gay.
I consuled with my friends girlfriend who told me that the only way I was going to get a job was to appear "Gay". I took her advice and dressed in skin tight clothing to my interview. I held my beverage with my pinky finger extended while at the interview and cloaked my normal man voice to appear slightly feminine (sp?). Wouldn't you know it I was hired and given a night audit possition who oversaw the department my future wife was the director of. Countless times I had to endure the other night audit guy who was openly gay. My manager was gay and the head manager was gay. You don't know how frustrating it is getting hit on all the time by homo's as I was pretty fucking hot back then driving my little 5.0 Mustang. I soon learned that pretty much ALL of the women that worked there were hitting on me, some of them kicking pens off the table while standing on a chair asking me to pick them up, knowing they were wearing loose dresses. One of the women with a military backround cornered me one night telling me how hot and young I was, pressing her body agenst mine. Several others I fixed their vehicles and was offered a night out on the town. It was hard work trying to avoid the temptation some of these women. I was constantly asked to go out drinking by some of the male folks and after passing several times I think they got the impression I was playing hard to get.
Finally I got the oppetrunity to make my move on my woman, I kept it secret since the biggoted system there at the hotel was that you date other men within the hotel, but god fobid you dated a woman that was working. After me and my now wife were hitting it off pretty well, living together, and having sex I grew tired of all the advances that were being made. I started reffering to them as fags to their face, but for some reason this was a turn on to them. Finally at the Christmas party I arrived there with my woman as a couple. Shortly after I was fired, however my wife contenued to work there. Later in spring there was a company picnic and my wife naturally brought me, all the homo's hated me, they called me names like "Breeder" and basiclly couldn't stand me anymore as I ditched the voice and was no longer interested in catering to their cause, after all I had gotten what I came for. Anyway, after getting married to my wife and her getting pregnate I eventually insisted that she quit, and she did. Every since then life has been pretty much awsome and I wouldnt change a single thing.
My point here PowerStroker, thru this big story, is that Homosexuals are the biggots. They are the ones who are intolarant. If they were given a possition of power they would abuse it and show favortisim to their own homosexual crew. So dont fucking sit here and tell me how fucking hard done by they are! They are fucking hypocrytes! No better than anyone else!
Allowing them to get married in a traditional way is more about pissing off people than anything else. They can not reproduce and thus the idea they need a union such as a traditional hetrosexual marrige to foster a family is a non-issue. They only seek to discrace that which is sacred to hetrosexual couples. They are angry mis-wired people. They have no-one else on their minds but themselves, and they often times have an attitude problem thinking they are better than everyone else. Well guess what... I FUCKING SHOWED THEM!
This is a classic!
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I don't even know how to respond to that, except to suggest that you are right... Homosexuals are just as flawed as straight people. I would submit that we may as well let them get married because half of them will surely get divorced anyway.
And many of them have... the courts love the extra business!
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I can see why men would hit on you. You kind of had that "I'm a total flamer" vibe going on.
ROTFLMAO !!!
I thought there was a hint of a Freddie Mercury there myself lol ! All that's needed is the moustache :) !
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