I know this is a hot button issue for you, I just don't understand why. Would it really be offensive to you if a man who used to be a woman used a mens bathroom? Would it torment your very soul?
It doesn't bother me one bit.
Everybody poops Rex.
-- Edited by PowerStroker on Wednesday 22nd of February 2017 08:21:09 PM
Better it's left in a can somewhere, than in your pants or worse places...
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What if someone used to have a penis but now has a vagina, or vice versa?
I'm sure Mr.Trumps daughter errr, son, errr whatever, can answer that one for you mate. I'm sure he / she has to ask herself / himself that question every-time he / she has to go...I'm sure too that he / she is a Republican / Democrat too. He / she used to be indecisive, but now he / she is not so sure...
Ciao,
Rastus
-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 22nd of February 2017 11:50:40 PM
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I can answer this....It's quite likely that since women all agree that their poop doesn't smell / stink, it would be unsavory to have them pooping next to men in the adjacent booth, as their poop & smell / stink is known ( apparently ) to strip paint off walls...
Later,
Rastus
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I think this thread showcases the insanity that has encompassed the Democrat party...
I mean are we really going to waste this much time over something that is so common sense that we are willing to warp the perception of reality?
It's no wonder the Democrats got booted from every level of government!
Myself personally, I could easily take a dump next to a woman, and I'd have no problem letting it hang out in the urinal while a woman walked in! Heck I might even turn to the side to give her a peek! And that is basically the problem right there! But that is exactly what Democrats want! Chaos!
I mean.. Don't get me wrong.. It's sexy...
If you can't see how ridiculous Democrats have become after seeing these images, then I guess you'll have a hard time understanding that Trump is going to go the full 8 years.
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You know, I'm reminded of the remake of Battlestar Galactica in which a more advanced version of ourselves were on the run from robots they had created generations earlier.
In the entire Colonial fleet, there were no separate bathrooms for men and women. In fact, there weren't separate bathrooms in any of the 12 colonies of Kobol. If and when the Colonial Fleet ever finds it's way to the long lost colony of Earth, they might be surprised by such an idea.
Even in the animal kingdom here, there aren't separate pooping spots for male and female animals.
I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong Rex, but I'd like to understand the logic behind your pooping discrimination.
Look, the transgender thing is moot... Because if someone was stupid enough to undergo such a procedure, then obviously - at least outwardly, things would appear or fail to appear upon inspection, depending upon the sex.
In the case where kids feel like they should be the opposite sex than what they are, well that just isn't cutting it. We should not be encouraging these confused children into thinking it's okay or accepted. It's a hell of a price for a kid to pay, in order to get attention.. Once the initial shock is gone, they are stuck with the reality that they are an abomination. As adults we know better, but we know Obama is no adult, and his desire to divide the nation at any opportunity is clearly embedded in this totally ignorant line of thinking that would cause us all to spend time arguing over why there is a Men's and a Woman's room in a public area.
Obviously humans have evolved more than wild animals PowerStroker, but I can see this sort of outrageous debate costing tax payers a whole bunch of money during the Obama Administration...
The last thing I need when trying to take a piss in a public bathroom urinal is a hard on! For that reason ALONE, no Women allowed!
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We don't need to "encourage" such behavior as you suggest, it's going to happen anyway.
You honestly believe that a young American citizen who is having a personal struggle with their gender identity is an abomination?
Don't you think their life is already hard enough without such bigotry? Shouldn't we be teaching other children to be more accepting and understanding that the plight of some people is not as easy as theirs might be?
As far as costing taxpayer money goes, how much does it actually cost to not discriminate? I would guess there would be significant savings to taxpayers if public buildings didn't need a separate bathroom for every gender.
For a party that spent $10 trillion dollars on the credit card, why should anyone give a hoot about your "savings"?
I'd imagine them "savings" would go right out the window the first time some kid or his mom gets molested in a public bathroom and the state, federal or private business that owns it gets their pants sued off.
What you are suggesting is that people no longer have to acknowledge reality... If someone is under 21 they should be able to say they feel 21, thus allowing them to drink alcohol. Or is someone is not yet retirement age, they might say I feel old, and as such I'd like to retire at 25 with full benefits... If some guy wanted to peep a hot chick in school, he could then say he identifies with the female gender to get into the girls locker room..
No PowerStroker... It amounts to some spoiled brats who think everyone else is going to play their silly games... I think voters overwhelmingly showed you that's not reality.
And those 2 million voters your party claims won Hillary the popular vote? Well, they are all being deported as we speak... They won't be anywhere near a US election poll come 2020.
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Money is spent by Congress, not the president. And you can check here http://www.usdebtclock.org/ to see how your party is currently doing in that regard. Looks like your people are doing just as bad as mine were, and it's going to get substantially worse once congress approves Trump's military build up, Obmacare repeal, and border wall.
Your examples about under-age drinking etc are a false equivalence. Some policies exist to protect the public, some exist to discriminate. It's interesting the one's you choose to care about and why - Just sayin.
-- Edited by PowerStroker on Friday 24th of February 2017 05:19:05 PM
They are not false equivalence, they are just inconvenient truths...
They are much the same whereas someone is trying to skirt the rules to gain access to what society deems unacceptable.
And any money spent cleaning up or reversing BS like this student bathroom policy should not be counted. That includes immigration reform, since we wouldn't be having to do this if Obama would have enforced the laws... Also the problems in the Middle East? That's another Obama mess, at least with regards to Ukraine, Russia, Iran and Syria. And the big one? Obamacare, which didn't even start to take ahold until Obama was well out of office, leaving a huge mess for the next guy.
These are things you'll have to come to grips with... This whole idea of pushing transgender and other homosexuality on the nations youth are and were unacceptable.
Then again, if you can't get your head around what it means to have a boys and a girls room, then all of this is just as big waste of time, as I have said over and over and over..
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They are not false equivalence, they are just inconvenient truths...
They are much the same whereas someone is trying to skirt the rules to gain access to what society deems unacceptable.
These are things you'll have to come to grips with... This whole idea of pushing transgender and other homosexuality on the nations youth are and were unacceptable.
Then again, if you can't get your head around what it means to have a boys and a girls room, then all of this is just as big waste of time, as I have said over and over and over..
Yo,
Apparently, it has been found that because of the atmospheric nuclear testing in the 1950's,60's,70's & so on, that a GREAT MANY babies are actually born Hermaphredite...( with both sexes apparent )...This leaves the ultimate decision of the sex of the child up to the parents...So it's quite possible that the child's parents made an error of judgement at birth, when James would have been better-off becoming Judy & so forth....
Also, scientists discovered with rats in the laboratory, that when a population grows beyond a certain amount, both male & female homosexuality becomes evident. This would indicate that its an actual natural law of mother nature, to curb the population growth of this group of animals...
As for the bathrooms, IMO, if you have an actual real, ready-to-use penis, the Men's Room is for you. If you happen to have an introverted plumbing system that makes you a female, then the Ladies Room will offer a great many seats for you to comfortably dispose of your waste.
If both happen to be full, wait, or just use the handicapped bathroom & lock the door...I believe handicapped bathrooms are unisex bathrooms where space is limited.
Ciao,
Rastus
NB. No one should be fined for needing to go to the bathroom, even if it's the wrong one, when it can be proven that they were full.
Better to use a bathroom than the alternative !
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Rastus, I don't think someone genuinely in need of having to go to the bathroom would have a problem, but I have waited in many lines to use the bathroom myself... So you'll look quite the fool if you take cuts or bust off into the ladies room with a bunch of men waiting in line... It may come to pass that the pain you'll feel after an angry line of men seeing you go into the woman's room was much worse than holding it and waiting your turn... Especially if one of the woman start screaming, which they should - because men don't belong in the woman's room. Simple as that.
Now for anyone wondering why Democrat leadership was bad for the country, just look at how long we have argued over something as simple as "Why there is a men and woman's bathroom". You'll soon realize that this has nothing to do with the ultra-minority transgender people, and everything to do with the Democrats trying to mock normal societal norms, common sense and decency be damned.
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Well, clearly I'm not going to convince you to join my point of view. So lets follow your logic to it's conclusion...
What should be the penalty for using the wrong public restroom?
You would probably get a ticket for indecent exposure or something alongs them lines. Much like being caught taking a leak out in public.
In grade school, it would probably result in a warning, then detention and possible suspension or expulsion depending how habitual the student is in trying to use the wrong bathroom.
Pretty simple eh? Use the public bathroom of your current sexual orientation and no problem!
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Well at least you didn't suggest death by stoning, so you're making some progress.
Rastus brought up a great point though. The children born with both sets of plumbing who's parents decided to have a surgery performed in order to pick a gender. What if they picked wrong and you end up with a male soul in a female body or vice-versa... If they have made a lifelong decision to dress, act, and live the gender they feel rather than the gender their parents imposed through surgery, should they really be subjected so such fines or punishments? Do you honestly believe that todays youth wouldn't be a little more accepting than prior generations just as they are about homosexuality? Do you honestly believe that such a person would be a corrupting influence on your children, and if so why? Were you corrupted when you met your first gay person?
Such cases are so very rare that appropriate measures would be taken by any responsible parent to talk with the school prior to the kid going. In any case, if the parents messed up and guessed wrong, well they better pay again to fix it... And they can pay as many times as the kid changes his mind... If the kid wants to go thru the agony to get his pecker whacked off just to be able to go in the woman's rest room... Well that's screwed up, but such is their choice.
If you got a penis you use the men's room... If you have a vagina you use the woman's room...
It's really quite simple... Even factoring in your negligible hypothesis that are so rare that you are probably never going to see them. In such "rare" and "genuine" cases most people make exceptions but it must be earned... No free peeking in the ladies rooms and vice versa... Get your plumbing in order and there will be no problem!
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