I seem to recall a time not so long ago when Democrats where giving Republicans shit about wanting to shut down the government on then President Obama...
Well...Well...Well...
Look who's all for shutting down the government now!?
SNL better do a good Liberal skit of this Saturday night if nothing is resolved by 12:01 Saturday morning, that's all I have to say! LOL
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What do the Dem's have to do with it? Your party has a majority in both houses, which means if you guys can get your shit together you won't need any Democratic votes to do it.
But if you can't get your shit together, the necessary Democratic votes will cost you DACA.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially when you consider that financial reasons are behind the shut down, and your party unilaterally just threw a bunch of fuel on that fire with deficit funded tax cuts for billionares that will be permanent, and some little temporary tax cuts for the rest of us.
Really goes to show what the priorities really are for the Republicans doesn't it?
At least get rid of the Federal Reserve if you can't shut-down the government...
Getting the country out-of-debt by reducing taxes on the super wealthy speak for itself....It's either gross-stupidity or election campaign pay-backs....Actually, it's both LOL !
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What do the Dem's have to do with it? Your party has a majority in both houses, which means if you guys can get your shit together you won't need any Democratic votes to do it. But if you can't get your shit together, the necessary Democratic votes will cost you DACA.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially when you consider that financial reasons are behind the shut down, and your party unilaterally just threw a bunch of fuel on that fire with deficit funded tax cuts for billionares that will be permanent, and some little temporary tax cuts for the rest of us.
Really goes to show what the priorities really are for the Republicans doesn't it?
We need 60 votes in the Senate. With only 51 Republican senators, only Democrats can prevent the #SchumerShutdown.
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Looks like we got something thru the House, where Republicans have the majority, but in the Senate were about 9 people short of that "Super Majority" that Obama enjoyed..
So now what PowerStroker?
Like I said, DEMOCRATS want to shut down the government!
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Screw DACA! Leave the fucking government shut down until March when DACA expires! Just think of all them Democrats crying come March before their tax returns can even get looked at!
All because Democrats once again want to put illegals in front of Americans!
-- Edited by SELLC on Friday 19th of January 2018 04:29:21 PM
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FYI - boarder patrol love their jobs and will round up these people harder than ever now. Its not going to be a pathetic shutdown like Obamas.. nope, this one is going to sink the Democrat party for good.
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Lost in the shitstorm over shithole was another equally damning example of President Donald Trumps blatant racism and sexism. It was an outward display of a mindset that in many ways has paved the way for the government shutdown were facing now.
Last week, NBC News reported that last fall, the president of the United States asked a career intelligence analyst Where are you from? She responded, New York, and that should have ended the conversation. It didnt.
He asked again, and she responded, Manhattan.
For those who have initiated a similar conversation, if you ask twice and you dont get the answer you are fishing for just drop it. Take a hint. We dont want to go there with you.
Trump, clearly oblivious to this social cue, follows up and asks where your people are from.
Finally relenting, the analyst answered that her parents are Korean. At this point, Trump, through his ignorance, has robbed this woman of all the hard work, intellect and skill she has invested into her profession by placing some artificial value on her (and her familys) ethnicity.
Where she or her parents are from has zero bearing on her job or value. Its one thing if someone volunteers information about their culture, background, family and upbringing. But until they do, its none of your business and should have no role in how you judge, evaluate and view them as professionals or human beings.
Taking it even further, Trump somehow manages to combine sexism with racism by asking why the pretty Korean lady wasnt negotiating with North Korea. The insane thing about this statement is that Im 100 percent certain that in Trumps mind, he was paying her a compliment.
What he did was demean and insult a woman who was simply trying to do her job.
Trump owes this pretty Korean lady an apology for his ignorant, racist and sexist comments. I dont think Trump realizes or cares about the consequences that his tone, tenor and words have had in the lives of people who dont look like him.
Pretty much my entire life, Ive been asked (primarily by white people) the question that I imagine every Asian-looking person cringes at inside: Where are you from?
In most cases, Im certain that the person asking this is not consciously discriminatory, but rather is just completely ignorant of how annoying this question is to people who look like me. Like the career intelligence analyst attempted to do with Trump, I answered the question by saying New York or California where I had spent my childhood and formative years. Inevitably comes the dreaded follow-up: No, I mean what is your background? Chinese or Japanese?
The puzzled looks I would receive when I responded: German and Italian were priceless but also revealing. I simply did not fit into their preordained stereotypical worldviews.
My name is Kurt (German) Bardella (Italian), and I am adopted.
For most of you out there who ask this question of people who look or sound different, youre probably just genuinely curious and mean no harm. Youre just trying to start conversation.
But the case of Trump and the career intelligence professional reveals something much more offensive. It was a glimpse into the racially charged worldview that Trump subscribes to,a worldview that has infected the Republican Party and now led us to a government shutdown.
Its the same worldview that led to his vulgarly demeaning the lives of would-be immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and nations in Africa. Its the same worldview that has him obsessed with building a border wall to keep bad hombres out of the United States. And its the same worldview that drove him to end DACA.
Trump and his Republican enablers are so fixated on enacting these outwardly racist policies that they are willing to preside over a government shutdown to get them.
The shutdown showdown unfolding right now is about much more than government funding. It is about two different portraits representing the American identity. The Trump-GOP viewpoint sees our country as one that is, first and foremost, Caucasian. The Democratic perspective sees a diverse nation of many cultures, backgrounds, languages and customs.
Thats what we are fighting about. It may be more politically expedient for Democrats to back down, but with our national identity hanging in the balance, this is the time to take a stand.
Kurt Bardella was born in Seoul, South Korea, and adopted by two Americans from Rochester, New York, when he was three months old. He currently lives in Arlington, Virginia.
"Only an alert & knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial & military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods & goals, so that security & liberty may prosper together". Dwight D.Eisenhower.
When people like Rex think that 700,000 people who were brought here as young children and spent their lives living as Americans should be deported, then no, the race card hasn't been used nearly enough.
I'll bet if 700,000 Norwegian women were brought here as young children, you'd be pushing to build a wall to keep them in.
700,000 people that are here illegally has not a fucking thing to do with race, PowerStroker!
People like YOU, PowerStroker, trying to put 700,000 illegals before our OWN people is the problem! It's what cost you the election and it will cost your party many more!
If the parents of these 700,000 "dreamers" didn't come here legally, it means their children they brought with them are illegal! PERIOD!
Since you don't have any kids, and spend the full amount of your life just worrying about your selfish "SELF", I would not expect you to understand why it's important to take care of our own kids before 700,000 illegals. I fully understand your ignorance PowerStroker! It's not that you don't care for your countrymen, women and children - it's just that you're incompetent! This incompetence comes from your lack of having any children or dependents other than yourself.
I am not looking for 700,000 Norwegian women! Keep them immigrants over there in Norway! If I wanted a Norwegian I'd visit Norway and bring back whatever one I wanted!
I am sorry PowerStroker, but you are a fool... Not only are you foolish, you're thinking is a danger to our national security and sovereignty. Your thinking is horribly ignorant considering India or China could just as easily import 3,000,000 people each to overrun this nation and they would still have a billion people to spare in their home countries! I say this because I am trying to get your incompetent mind around "WHY" we have immigration laws!
Again, it does not matter what the "race" of people who are here illegally is! We have white Europeans and many other races mixed into the 700,000 dreamers. So your parties efforts to make this into a race issue is nothing more than a typical liberal fallacy.
Deport all 700,000 DACA dreamers! They can learn from the mistakes of their parents, or they can sneak back in here illegally. I am betting more than 1/2 of them would not learn and try and re-enter, as they did back under Obama when he would deport them and they would literally get off the bus and walk back into the United States! PowerStroker, is there anything that Obama did that wasn't a complete and total waste of money!? NO! There was not, the terrorist known as Obama was only interested in lying while he run this nation into the ground!
NO DACA! BUILD A WALL!
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I should also mention that the liberal shit-show known as SNL (Saturday Night Live), did not do a little musical themed diss of Chuck Schumer's shut down!
Total fucking joke SNL and the liberal networks are!
You see the bias but you say NOTHING!
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I've been searching the web for records of your citizenship, and I have some serious questions as to the validity of yours. Acutally Obama's documents are more convincing. Perhaps you should be deported too? I don't blame you though, it looks like these documents were made when you were an infant so really it's your parents fault. But I'd hate to not apply the same standard to everybody, so you'll have to go back to Croatia until such time as you can convince me of your legal status.
Will this forum still be on-line if SELLC has to move back to Croatia ?....
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"Only an alert & knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial & military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods & goals, so that security & liberty may prosper together". Dwight D.Eisenhower.
I've been searching the web for records of your citizenship, and I have some serious questions as to the validity of yours. Acutally Obama's documents are more convincing. Perhaps you should be deported too? I don't blame you though, it looks like these documents were made when you were an infant so really it's your parents fault. But I'd hate to not apply the same standard to everybody, so you'll have to go back to Croatia until such time as you can convince me of your legal status.
Nice knowing you.
Records of my citizenship? LOL
That shouldn't be hard to find.. I suppose the odds of Hawaii making a mistake on Obama's birth certificate has to be somewhere in the odds of them sending out a false ballistic missile alert.. Could never happen - would never happen in fact! lol
All that said, I'm as American as Apple pie... 100% US born and raised.
My father immigrated to America from England with my Grandfather and Grandmother, legally... ENGLAND! You know, the people who came over on a boat called the Mayflower and colonized this here country... Even still, my father was not like these illegals as he paid his dues and is now a citizen.
I don't know where the hell you guys get this Croatia shit... Probably from Stoma, who by the way is so full of shit his eyes are brown.
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Well, for starters... In my eyes he's allegedly a US citizen, as I have seen some pretty silly rulings come out of Hawaii... not just limited to their little ballistic missile threat warning mishap.
And what makes me better than Obama is the fact I did not run off to some shithole African country and renounce my citizenship in an effort to get free schooling there. I guess you will also try and deny this too... You will also deny Obama's own Grandmother who says that Obama was born in Jakarta Indonesia, along with his brother and many others including documents as authentic as the ones coming out of Hawaii.. Seems like it's all just one big lie as Obama's actions while President were the most telling.
I am sorry you don't like the country you live in PowerStroker, perhaps you should consider taking a trip outside of the USA to get your head right... Have you been to any other country PowerStroker? Just know that Canada, Mexico and U.S territories don't count. Where have you been PowerStroker?
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The documents you are citing in your claims about Obama are even more dubious than your birth certificate. How am I supposed to believe that you are a natural born citizen of the US as you claim. Am I supposed to just take your word for it?
Well no, however I did have to provide a birth certificate to get my license and attend school... It's required around these parts PowerStroker...
They also have my original birth certificate on file at the local hospital that I was born in, that still exist and was always a reputable establishment that were good stewards of client documents, aka they kept proper records.
Regardless, I am not running for public office so I'd only be a fool to post photos of my birth certificate. People questioning Obama's nationality has nothing to do with his race, and everything to do with his anti-American actions. Just an FYI.
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