Recently the only black (well he doesn't even look black if you ask me) race car driver in NASCAR felt a sudden change of heart and is asking the entire fanbase of NASCAR to ditch their confederate flags! Worse yet is that NASCAR is getting behind this as well!
Given the fact that the confederate flag has been a part of many events I feel it's highly insensitive for one man to ask an entire sport to change to accommodate their feelings! As such you can only imagine what a boost in publicity this whole thing has been for Bubba Wallace, as before this no one had really heard of him. Now, much like Colin Kaepernick, we have a person who in all rights isn't very good at the sport - making a name and getting publicity by shunning other peoples ideologies. This is just the kind of nonsense that has no business in the sports world, be it the NFL or NASCAR!
Recently at a NASCAR race they have flown the confederate flag over the race tack with an airplane, and even more recently Bubba claims that he found a noose in his stall! One has to wonder if perhaps Bubba and Jussie Smollett have been hanging out, and if perhaps this was done by either Bubba himself, or one of his team who are now more popular than ever because of their desires to change the sport. Sounds like Bubba would have more to gain from such a stunt than anyone else...
If you ask me the fans at NASCAR should be able to carry on how they like, and if you ask me the confederate flag is not a racist symbol, rather a very important time in our countries history! For NASCAR to try and act like their entire fan-base is made up of people other than the sultry South, many of whom still hold in high regards their confederate flags, NASCAR is making a HUGE mistake. It takes a certain kind of person to attend a racing event, and the parties and infield tail-gating has always been a cornerstone of the sport. I think NASCAR is making a BIG mistake, and I think it's quite selfish of Bubba to even think his feelings are more important than the fans who pay his salary!
I don't have time to attend or watch NASCAR, however hearing about this will only make me feel less inclined to support NASCAR should it ever come up. For instance, I'd be less likely to pay more for NASCAR sanctioned goods, and I would probably avoid any such official NASCAR merchandise out of protest, much like I haven't purchased a single Nike item since they backed Kaepernick.
But I am sure they will find all kinds of people to replace their current fan base, I am sure that black America will be beating down NASCAR's doors looking to attend events now so they can wave their #BLM hate flags while they prevent others from the same courtesy.
Just my two cents... Feel free to add yours and vote!
The issue isn't the flag itself imo, but media stirring-up long asleep POV's, forcing you guys to take a side.
The future lay in getting-on with life & your neighbors as best as possible. To stir-up & fight over a flag & its use on a NASCAR is just an easy button for the media to push to get you all fighting among yourselves, & that's un-American.
You can't change history, but to repeat a mistake of history means many will pay dearly, & for a long while.
I like the flag. It's easy-on-the-eye, & instantly says I'm from the South. Perfect for ID-ing a car in a 20+ car race-field.
Mr.Trumpdt needs to show leadership here & calm the waters. He better remind his people that they're all US-of-A citizens, & all equals.
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Would you feel the same way if it were a swastika flag?
If so, why? Both are symbols of fascism and genocide. The Confederate one also symbolizes treason against the United States.
This is long overdue.
The confederate flag is NOT a swastika flag though! Yes it may be the flag of the civil war but that is a VERY important part of our history! The confederate states are now American states, and really they always were. It's an example of just what the left is trying to achieve today with race divisions.
My Grandmother picked cotton in the South when she was a kid and most people had to do hard manual labor back in the day, not just the slaves! When I see the confederate flag it brings NO feelings of hate or racism in any way! Not in my age at least!
It has gotten WAY out of hand this "cancel" culture! From Aunt Jemima syrup to Uncle Bens rice - WTF!? You don't like it? DON'T BUY IT! Simple as that!
Now we have this big movement in the black community to "buy black owned", and really that is their choice to make! But let's not have a fit when people start to suggest white people buy white owned! Really I'd just be happy to get more AMERICAN made stuff and I don't really care what color or creed they are - so long as they are American! But that would just be too easy and it would not achieve the desired results that the desperate Democrats are looking for, which is division.
The only thing LONG OVERDUE is the spanking that many of the kids now days didn't get... Grow the fuck up! It's like going to a rock concert and there is always that one dipshit who says the music is too loud! Duh! It's a fucking rock concert! You don't like it, don't go to a rock concert!
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The issue isn't the flag itself imo, but media stirring-up long asleep POV's, forcing you guys to take a side.
The future lay in getting-on with life & your neighbors as best as possible. To stir-up & fight over a flag & its use on a NASCAR is just an easy button for the media to push to get you all fighting among yourselves, & that's un-American.
You can't change history, but to repeat a mistake of history means many will pay dearly, & for a long while.
I like the flag. It's easy-on-the-eye, & instantly says I'm from the South. Perfect for ID-ing a car in a 20+ car race-field.
Mr.Trumpdt needs to show leadership here & calm the waters. He better remind his people that they're all US-of-A citizens, & all equals.
Trump has always said everyone is equal! He says people should be judged on their accomplishments and not their race!
He isn't like the famous race baiter Obama who spent his entire tenure reminding people he was black, like America didn't already know that when they elected him!
History cannot be changed and the stigma being put on the confederate flag is unacceptable! I should be able to fly whatever flag I want, just below the American flag of course!
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The people who fly the Confederate flag are essentially celebrating treason. It's pretty un-American if you ask me.
Don't be too hasty here PowerStroker...
Lot's of folks today have become aware of the likely possibility of Central Bank interference from Europe in starting your Civil War. They wanted "in", & so "slavery laws" were conjured to divide the country, & the Brits / Rothschild's could then pick-up-the-pieces & buy-in-permanently. But that took until 1913 to be formalized.
New colonies needed slaves for survival & workin' the land, to help keep local & national economies steadily growing. But that's always been the European approach with Africa sadly, and remains to this day...But the US-of-A survived for the better IMO, as it learned an important lesson in that Civil War, & that would be that if human freedoms, rights, liberties, & democracy cannot prosper in the US-of-A then all of us are doomed.
Venting can be a good thing at times. As people, we don't always get along with one another, but that doesn't mean we have to be shoe-horned back into a battle that regretfully took place around 160-years ago...I guess the media loves playing with the population on this issue.
It's time to get over the past & move forward. Not all slave owners were necessarily evil-racist-disgraces to the human race, though no doubt plenty were.
It's only a flag, & say's that "I'm from the South". But at this point-in-time, it's like having anything with "Trump" written on it, & you're simply asking for trouble. And this isn't fair IMO, since the Confederate flag has far greater worth & value than say Mr.Trumpdt could ever offer.
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Turns out 15 FBI agents did an investigation and have found that said "noose", which was actually just a bay door pull string, has been in Wallace's bay #4 since 2019!!! Wallace was just assigned the bay a few weeks ago!
So this just proves that the Liberal race war is a trumped up scam that is WAY out of hand!
It's time to start cracking down!
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One has to wonder the extent that NASCAR, the Liberal Media and Wallace was involved in this scam!
Seems like anyone familiar with your typical auto repair building would know what a door pull string was!
This has gotten so far out of hand with these bogus and fake instances that were designed to incite panic and fear!
Makes you wonder if blacks are now hanging each other from trees to stir up shit! After they are done killing their gang rivals they string them up for bonus cash from their Soros backers!
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Turns out 15 FBI agents did an investigation and have found that said "noose", which was actually just a bay door pull string, has been in Wallace's bay #4 since 2019!!! Wallace was just assigned the bay a few weeks ago!
So this just proves that the Liberal race war is a trumped up scam that is WAY out of hand!
It's time to start cracking down!
It wasn't a liberal who started a thread titled "RE: NASCARS Bubba Wallace hanging out with Jussie Smollett?"
It wasn't a liberal trying to create a fake conspiracy theory that Bubba put the noose in his garage stall in order to stoke the flames of civil unrest.
It wasn't a liberal who tied that noose in the first place, at least it's HIGHLY unlikely.
It wasn't a liberal on this site who can't possibly imagine a circumstance in which an African American could ever be a legitimate victim of white supremacy.
I think you owe Bubba an apology. And when you're done apologizing to Bubba, maybe do some soul searching and self improvement to avoid this kind of thing in the future, just sayin.
I would like to think Wallace or any of his team members would have been able to identify a garage door pull rope! So no, I am not going to apologize for their incompetence that cost manpower to investigate something so obvious! NASCAR should be made to pay for whatever cost were associated with identifying a garage door pull rope!
And then the entire NASCAR management, media, along with Wallace himself should apologize to us Americans as well!
I'd be satisfied if they all just gathered on the infield, put their heads between their legs and kissed their own asses.. Is that asking too much!?
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Rex, I'm pretty sure they knew it was the garage door pull rope, but had to question why someone would tie it in a noose.
Are you still not going to apologize to Bubba for incorrectly suggesting he did this himself?
Look, your silly talk may fly in that Union Dealership where you work, but from where I am from a noose is a noose and a garage door pull string is, you guessed it - a garage door pull string!
Since that knot was shown to have been there since 2019 then obviously it was tied that way to allow a handle on the rope, or a thick section for which to grab it! Had it been a "real" noose it would have pulled thru long ago! It was made that way to ease in holding on to the rope when pulling the garage door shut! To even have to explain this to you makes me seriously doubt your competency as a mechanic! Do you also let air filter clamps fall into someones intake plenum when doing a job too!? Seriously!
How you could even suggest that I apologize for calling out this race baiting POS (much like yourself), when I said from the very start that it was his own doing, is beyond insulting! Him and every single person at NASCAR owes ME an apology for wasting the entire nations time with this bullshit! I am not going to argue with an idiot over a garage door rope! Fucking grow up!
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And FYI, not only black people have been hung with a noose! In fact I would argue that going far enough back in time would prove that more whites were hung than any blacks!
Used to be how they killed people back in the day, in fact why don't you ask Saddam Hussain what he thinks of a noose!
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What the fuck do I have to apologize to anyone for?
You could start by apologizing for the ignorance you have about the white privilege you enjoy. A privilege you have that is not based on merit. Apologize for not only having it, but for being unaware of it. That would be a good place to start. Then you could apologize for the Confederate license plate you used to have. Then just start reading through every post you have ever made here and apologize for them in order.
And you can apologize for thinking this ^^^ is just another ordinary garage door pull rope, no more unique than every other one in the world.
If you could just try to imagine life without your white privilege for a second, imagine how you would feel if you were the only black driver in Nascar Cup Series, and found this in your assigned garage immediately after the Confederate flag was banned from the premises. Only then to have conservatives in your country who have never met you, suggest that YOU may have tied such a knot in order to stoke the flames of racial tension that is already high. Then imagine how you would feel if the same conservatives blamed YOU for the whole thing even after it was proven not to have been tied by you. This after a lifetime of living in a country as a second class citizen where police selectively enforce the law to uphold white supremacy. Imagine being pulled over for the egregious crime of driving while black. I think if you were capable of such imagination, you could look back and find plenty of things for which you should apologize.
And don't forget to apologize to the victim of your domestic violence incident.
-- Edited by PowerStroker on Thursday 25th of June 2020 06:59:08 PM
Is that what you were summoned to court for, throwing water at someone?
I noticed your new signature line. Can you list any examples of times you have championed the causes of innocent, helpless, powerless people? Have you ever championed a cause for any black people?
Come on Knight Rider, I'm waiting.
"In a world of criminals that operate above the law" Is a reality YOU created with your own voting record my friend.
-- Edited by PowerStroker on Friday 26th of June 2020 09:49:49 AM
It's really a shame I can't get into it outside of saying that my appeal was granted. What I can tell you is the other person was charged as well.
I Champion the cause every single day PowerStroker! Criminals like yourself, Obama, Biden and your entire crew that take advantage of people and turn them against one another are a constant battle! When I clap back at you morons I am doing it for EVERYONE, regardless of race, creed or religion.
Obamagate is an excellent example of criminals operating above the law, spying on and criminally charging people using manufactured evidence! Or how about Biden? Taking all them bribes from Ukraine and Biden's son Hunter who was on the China dole for a very long time! Bet the Chinese loved Biden because all they had to do was buy him off at Americas expense! I wouldn't be shocked if Biden and the Democrats were behind this whole COVID-19 pandemic! I wouldn't be shocked if the DNC gets a .10 cent royalty on all face masks sold!
Unlike your crooked team of domestic terrorist, my voting record reflects true change for the better! Things like Law and Order, draining the swamp and putting America first are the goals of my party! Your party just wants to divide, create chaos, riot and burn down America!
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Rex, I'm pretty sure they knew it was the garage door pull rope, but had to question why someone would tie it in a noose.
Are you still not going to apologize to Bubba for incorrectly suggesting he did this himself?
It wasn't tied in a noose it was a paracord "loop knot" that does not tighten up. Leftist media turned it into a noose, with fake pictures of a noose at that.
The FBI has determined that a noose found in NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace's garage at Talladega Superspeedway on Sunday had been there since at least last year, according to the bureau.
A statement issued by U.S. Attorney Jay E. Town said that an investigation has concluded that no federal crime was committed.
"The FBI learned that garage number 4, where the noose was found, was assigned to Bubba Wallace last week. The investigation also revealed evidence, including authentic video confirmed by NASCAR, that the noose found in garage number 4 was in that garage as early as October 2019," the bureau said. "Although the noose is now known to have been in garage number 4 in 2019, nobody could have known Mr. Wallace would be assigned to garage number 4 last week."
Further details were not immediately released. The FBI said no charges would be pursued in relation to the incident.
I think you are just incapable of apologizing to a black person. The entire idea doesn't compute for you.
If you were transported back in time and found out for yourself that Jesus had darker skin than is portrayed in American visualizations... Something would just automatically click in your brain, whereupon you would blame him for his own crucifixion and say he probably spouted off to the wrong governor of Rome, and shouldn't have resisted arrest.
I think maybe you're just a bigoted political hack who has always taken advantage of black people with your crocodile tears and outpouring of fake support.
Bubba Wallace is quick at one thing though, running that big cock-sucker of his!
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Since that knot was shown to have been there since 2019 then obviously it was tied that way to allow a handle on the rope, or a thick section for which to grab it! Had it been a "real" noose it would have pulled thru long ago! It was made that way to ease in holding on to the rope when pulling the garage door shut! To even have to explain this to you makes me seriously doubt your competency as a mechanic!
Sounds like Shawnee is seriously doubting your competency as a mechanic too, PowerStroker!
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What both of you fail to understand apparently, is that before the exact type of knot was identified, there was a legitimate belief that it was a noose, and it was tied specifically to send Bubba a message about his support for the black lives matter movement. We know that in fact that was not the case.
Focus less on the type of knot it ended up being, and more on the false accusation that Bubba tied it please.
Dude, shit is all on Bubba now... He could have handled himself in a more "professional" way... The silent majority says that life is unfair for more than just black folks...
His crown to wear now.
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The silent majority says that life is unfair for more than just black folks...
You are many things, but never silent.
" According to Republican pollster Frank Luntz, "silent majority" is but one of many labels which have been applied to the same group of voters. According to him, past labels used by the media include "silent majority" in the 1960s, "forgotten middle class" in the 1970s, "angry white males" in the 1980s, "soccer moms" in the 1990s, and "NASCAR dads" in the 2000s"
Stuck in the 80's perhaps, but never silent. If angry white males is a majority, then this country is doomed to fascism.
"Only an alert & knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial & military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods & goals, so that security & liberty may prosper together". Dwight D.Eisenhower.
The entire premise of this thread is that Bubba tied the knot in order to fan the flames. Now that the truth is known, Rex has yet to apologize for that assertion.
"Only an alert & knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial & military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods & goals, so that security & liberty may prosper together". Dwight D.Eisenhower.