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Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Cold's & Flu's...

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Cold and Flu are noticeably less right now due to the masking and social distancing people have been doing to prevent Covid.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Without a doubt people are going to catch the cold and the flu... It's something we have all had to worry about even before the new name COVID-19 come along to put the fear of death in us.

First it was Delta variant, now we got the Mu...

Round and round we go!

Just so long as the real nasty one hit's a few months before the November 2022 election so that Democrats can harvest their ballots and George Soros saves a boat load in bus transportation! I'm sure it's a much more reliable way to cheat, having the blank ballot harvested and filled out properly than risk someone getting in that booth and making a mistake, or voting for someone they werent supposed to. You can see it building up, just look at PowerStroker's response above! It ignores the reality that everyone has to work or go to school... there is no social distancing... it's all a big fucking joke! Just sit huddled up in your house and die, because if you go out you'll die of one of the COVID variants! I'd say this is getting outrageous but it's been that way since March of 2020.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

LOL !!!

It's not PowerStrokers fault, he replied in a simple way, & that's all that was needed.

We also have to remember that IMO, this "COrona VIrus Disease 2019" is a crock of bullshyte, designed in-part to see how gullible people around the world are, so that further control / brainwashing can be determined by our leaders, to ensure their power over us.

But you can only "cry wolf " so-many times before people wake-up to the deception.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

So you think PowerStrokers statement about masks and social distancing keeping the cold and flu away are true?

So much for waking up!

Simply put.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
1.So you think PowerStrokers statement about masks and social distancing keeping the cold and flu away are true?
2.So much for waking up!
3.Simply put.

LOL !!!

R1. You're putting words in my mouth here SELLC...He answered the question simply as asked.

R2. I've tried my best to bring to you all differing angles about how all of this stuff is intermingled, from different news outlets, & blog, plus once Dr.Greer's truths are revealed, how all this bollox fits into place.

It's all about holding on to corrupted power, so yes, I've woken-up, & see this.

R3. PowerStrokers POV has to be respected. Many folks share this POV too.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You can respect whatever you want Rastus...

As for me I reject PowerStrokers bullshit claims 90% of the time.

Just know that when you're forced to take a "jab" on your new job it will be his POV you will be FORCED to respect. Why? Because you gave them an inch.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

You're free to refuse the jab, you just need to find employment elsewhere. See your freedom remains intact!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
You're free to refuse the jab, you just need to find employment elsewhere. See your freedom remains intact!

I'm glad to see you don't have a probelm with that arrangement! It will make union busting and contract negotiations much easier in the future!

As someone who is self employed I won't have to worry about such unconstitutional arrangements, but it does worry me that your dumb-donkey-ass is setting a precedent to "Obey or else"... Because it won't be long before a Republican is back in office and I am sure they will have a nice hot button issue for you to comply with "or else"... maybe it will be a vaccine to cure your liberal disease?

Fauci said "Two weeks to flatten the curve"... Well that was back in March 2020... today it's September 2021 and they are still on their bullshit!

Sorry pal, were all stocked up on that bullshit here... maybe try the people next door?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

There is already well established law on the books from the last pandemic 100 years ago that allows employers to mandate vaccinations. Don't like it? Then don't work there, it's simple. And being self employed you have the freedom to set whatever vaccination policy for your shop that you choose, just as other employers have the same right.

As far as I'm concerned, with vaccines readily available and highly effective, it now makes the virus just another example of natural selection. Notice how it started out ravaging the population centers like NYC, but then, once vaccines were available and smart people took them, the virus then migrated to the stupidity centers of the deep south? It's a terrible and unnecessary waste of humanity, but it proves Darwin right. Survival of the fittest now means survival of those who don't buy into conspiracy theories.

I worry about you Rex, and I'm hoping you end up among the living. Because if nothing else, I enjoy our discussions and would miss them.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

That's very nice of you PowerStroker, I hope you stay safe as well.

It's rare for anyone to get me worked up enough to call them a fucking idiot but you seem to have a special skill in that department... so I guess I'd miss my occasional adrenaline spikes if you were to pass from a breakthru case. Hopefully your placebo jab is enough to keep you out of the hospital since most people with the flu or cold would just go to a clinic and get a Zpac and take a few days off in bed. It's nice to know your placebo jab allows you to treat COVID like the flu, at least in your mind.

Meanwhile, for everyone else they can deal with the stigma and take their COVID lumps without peice of mind... because you know the people at any healthcare facility is going to give you poor service if you're not vaxed... if only to set an example I'm sure. They all have just as big a hand in this as the Government. They can't cure or stop the flu, but get three jabs a year and you'll still only feel like you caught the flu. Amazing, huh?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

LOL !

SELLC, I have clearly stated to my "boss" that should mandatory vaccinations be implied by law, to count-me-out, I'm not interested, since I can prove beyond-reasonable-doubt, that this Covid-thingy is a hoax...

And since I also need a Singapore medical along with my AMSA one, he's checked-up, & no vaccination required.

I'm not working / sailing if this is forced on me, that simple. Anything, vaccine or whatever that has had nuclear industry input is a NO GO ZONE instantly.

I'm glad to have the support & understanding of my boss.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Cool...cool... it's really none of my business anyway and I wouldn't know one way or the other if you did or didn't.

I'm just making a point that you want me to respect someones bullshit opinion when that same person isn't willing to respect yours.

If you ask PowerStroker he will tell you, you should get the vax... and if you asked him if it should be mandated he would say yes! Even if you told him you felt otherwise, he would still feel obligated to insist or "mandate" it.

Just so we're on the same page is all. lol

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

LOL !

There's every possibility that some bullshyte may happen in traveling back home, ( or even to the ship ), where I may have to stay in a hotel for quarantine for a few-days / weeks, & no doubt whether you've been vaccinated or not will play a part in this duration...

But at this stage, no vaccination required, & only 2-day quarantine in a hotel prior to joining vessel.

One strange aspect is that I have to fly to Perth WA for the Singapore medical...I'm not sure if the 2-day quarantine will be applied here. Hopefully fly-in, then medical, then fly-out back home, & join vessel in a few weeks.

It seems unlikely, but I may be going nowhere if I fail the medical LOL, so I won't get too far ahead of myself.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

PowerStroker wrote:
"And being self employed you have the freedom to set whatever vaccination policy for your shop that you choose, just as other employers have the same right."
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~On edit: Employers with fewer than 100 employees can set their own policy. OSHA is about to mandate vaccinations (or weekly testing) at companies with 100 or more employees... It is after all a workplace safety issue, which they are charged with regulating.

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Thursday 9th of September 2021 07:50:57 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Wasn't a workplace safety issue back before they had the vaccine... people still had to work!

It's really all bullshit and just goes to show that any company over 100 employees isn't able to survive without the Government.

It would be nice to see the Union do something besides sit on their asses but you know they will do what their told because of that nearly $4 trillon dollar stick the Democrats are trying to get their hands on. Think they call it an infrastructure union kickback club, run by your buddy Secretary Pete.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Ensuring that your work-place is safe & its employees healthy is a good thing imo.

Making vaccinations mandatory is NOT a good thing...

I agree that TESTING should be carried out if desired, but let's face it folks, it's all super expensive to maintain, & everyone knows that if you think you're getting a cold or flu, you stay home, so as to not spread it through the work-place.

Simple.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
Wasn't a workplace safety issue back before they had the vaccine... people still had to work!

Yes, it was a workplace safety issue before the vaccine, and lots of people died because they had to work anyway. Which by the way, is exactly the reason OSHA was created during the Nixon administration, because workplaces were far too unsafe. Luckily OSHA recognizes covid as a current cause of too many workplace induced deaths and is doing something about it.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Seems Democrats are going to throw everything but the kitchen sink at this...

First it was Gretchen getting her emergency powers yanked, then Biden and the CDC who got smacked down for their unconstitutional eviction ban, and now it's this bullshit with OSHA and Vaccine mandates! It's clear Joe Biden is clueless and it's a shame because he has spent so much time in Government! All of this will be struck down by a Judge, just like all the BS before it! It's just a shame he keeps making all these moves in bad faith knowing it's just wasting everyones time! He don't care, but the people aren't going back to lockdowns and some shit ass $5,000 per year in PPP!

Government is going to be out of money in October... I'd say your people better get busy passing a new budget deal and all that infrastructure BS before 2022 rolls around because I don't see people shutting down again even if the COVID numbers increase ten fold. People are just fed up with your bullshit and you have cried wolf too many times. Biden is an empty vessel, much like Harris... the real big election happens in 2022 because clearly it ain't Joe running the show because he has admitted that on TV twice now.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
People are just fed up with your bullshit

Some people are fed up with my bullshit, others are fed up with masks and restrictions. Personally, I'm fed up with covid and am glad we have a president who is also fed up with covid and taking the necessary actions to get us past it.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

When I say people are just fed up with your bullshit I mean that as people being tired of the Democrat BS water you're carrying!

If you REALLY think Biden has any control over this virus, regardless what he does - then you would be wrong. Biden can't even remember what he is saying from minute to minute, let alone fix a global pandemic.

Biden is a feeble old man who likes to get on TV and beat his chest in the most pathetic way. He threatens Americans more than he does the Taliban!

But Biden is not in control of his mouth any more than he is anything else.

Clearly from your reply you're tired of the COVID bullshit too, but you're playing along - willing to trample other peoples rights and freedoms for something you know hasn't been proven safe, let alone effective.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

With over 200 million Americans having received at least one shot, and now 99% of those hospitalized from covid being unvaccinated, I'd say we have more than a sufficient sample size to make a definitive determination.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
With over 200 million Americans having received at least one shot, and now 99% of those hospitalized from covid being unvaccinated, I'd say we have more than a sufficient sample size to make a definitive determination.

No supporting link? In other words, can you PROVE it?

A lot of things were supposed to have killed me or put me in the hospital a long time ago... perhaps you just want another three jabs? Do they give you some kind of special "sucker" after each one? Like a DumDum brand sucker?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
No supporting link? In other words, can you PROVE it?

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-by-the-numbers-vaccinated-continue-to-be-protected

I would have thought as a website owner you would be capable of doing a google search. Would you like me to cut your waffles for you too?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

LOL !!!

I'll re-post this e-book for y'all, since it will help put everything back into perspective, for everyone concerned...Please take the time to read it through...Yes, it is a little lengthy at 150-pages, but they're small pages, & there's many spaces etc etc, so lucky to be 25-regular A-4 pages the way I see things...

The book was made out-of-necessity, by a successful multi-business-owner, so that we can take a step back, & see how this COrona VIrus Disease 2019 unravelled itself, & hopefully destroys itself LOL !

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
SELLC wrote:
No supporting link? In other words, can you PROVE it?

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-by-the-numbers-vaccinated-continue-to-be-protected

I would have thought as a website owner you would be capable of doing a google search. Would you like me to cut your waffles for you too?

No need to cut my waffles... but do you want to explain this statement from your article?

Of the 8,054 hospitalized breakthrough COVID-19 cases, at least 1,587 deaths are known to have occurred.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus wrote:
LOL !!!

I'll re-post this e-book for y'all, since it will help put everything back into perspective, for everyone concerned...Please take the time to read it through...Yes, it is a little lengthy at 150-pages, but they're small pages, & there's many spaces etc etc, so lucky to be 25-regular A-4 pages the way I see things...

The book was made out-of-necessity, by a successful multi-business-owner, so that we can take a step back, & see how this COrona VIrus Disease 2019 unravelled itself, & hopefully destroys itself LOL !

It's only 150 "small pages"

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:

No need to cut my waffles... but do you want to explain this statement from your article?
Of the 8,054 hospitalized breakthrough COVID-19 cases, at least 1,587 deaths are known to have occurred.

Yes Rex, with over 200 MILLION Americans having at least 1 shot, we so far have ended up with 1587 breakthrough deaths. This is almost a ZERO percent fataltiy rate among the vaccinated. Whereas the unvaccinated are over 15 TIMES more likely to die from covid... Numbers don't lie Rex. Exactly how much more of a stark numbers contrast do you require before you start to believe facts? The sample size here is fucking enormous, at some point this has to sink in.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
SELLC wrote:

No need to cut my waffles... but do you want to explain this statement from your article?
Of the 8,054 hospitalized breakthrough COVID-19 cases, at least 1,587 deaths are known to have occurred.

Yes Rex, with over 200 MILLION Americans having at least 1 shot, we so far have ended up with 1587 breakthrough deaths. This is almost a ZERO percent fataltiy rate among the vaccinated. Whereas the unvaccinated are over 15 TIMES more likely to die from covid... Numbers don't lie Rex. Exactly how much more of a stark numbers contrast do you require before you start to believe facts? The sample size here is fucking enormous, at some point this has to sink in.

You're fucking with the numbers again! You guys ALWAYS do that shit!

If 8,054 people caught COVID after getting the shot, and of them 8,054 people, 1,587 died then it's safe to say that over 20% died!

When we bring these numbers into full context it's clear they resemble a typical Flu season in terms of mortality... only Flu deaths did not make headlines back in the day.

The big difference here is that the Government and idiots like yourself are really stressing people out! Loss of income, housing, transportation and the over-all media blitz is putting these people in the hospital!

Hypertension brought on by stress!

SHAME ON YOU BASTARDS!

Trying to peer pressure people into getting unknown shit pumped into their body by way of injection! All in the name of funding big pharma!

These people in the Hospitals and Healthcare business are ALL guilty as well! Many of them refuse to take the jab cocktail themselves!

Just read about how the new "flu" shot is coming out too! That will be FOUR shots people will have taken in a year! FOUR!

Fuck you.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

And if you missed ANY ONE of the four placebo shots you'll be treated like shit at the Hospital, like it was YOUR FAULT! Made an example out of as they bill your insurance and the Government!

Have you had all four of your placebo shots PowerStroker?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:

You're fucking with the numbers again! You guys ALWAYS do that shit!
If 8,054 people caught COVID after getting the shot, and of them 8,054 people, 1,587 died then it's safe to say that over 20% died!

Let us be abundantly clear, No it's not "safe to say that over 20% (of vaccinated people) died!"

It IS safe to say that 20% of the RARE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS that required hospitalization died, which means almost ZERO percent of the vaccinated population died. On average, over 99% of the covid deaths happening now are unvaccinated people.

You can verify this yourself, or I can cut your waffles again if you prefer, but we already know what I do to some peoples breakfast.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Saturday 11th of September 2021 06:05:12 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You never answered if you were up to date on your jabs!

I am glad you will admit that 20% of the people who got the shot and still got sick enough to visit the hospital died.

Did you know in 2018-2019 35.5 MILLION people got sick? And that 16.5 MILLION had been admited to the hospital? There were 34,200 dealths from influenza too. This is according to the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

So if you add up all the people who got the shot and the people who didn't and then you do the math the survivability rate on the whole is still greater than 99%... with, without and anywhere in between! And of course that's not including all the people who were literally scared to death with this fear campaign. Or the deaths that a few Democrat Governors in swing states caused by allowing sick people to be admitted into senior homes.

Also, these shots are less than a half year old! We can't know for sure if they are safe! Already women are saying their periods are thrown off by them and it's even triggered a multi-million dollar study! This idea that everyone must get four shots a year, in addition to all the others all their lives is getting a little out of hand! Some of these younger kids who are still in school might be getting upwards of ten or more shots a year with all the mandates on them to attend school! How did the human race ever survive before big Pharma!?

Cocaine and hookers!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I have had 2 doses of Pfizer, and won't be eligible for the 3rd until around December.

The average covid fatality rate is around 2% So for every 100 people who get covid, about 2 people die. This percentage varies by area, and is obviously significantly higher where the hospitals are overrun. So you can expect a much higher mortality rate coming out of the deep south these days. The fatality rate for influenza on the other hand is around .1%.

Another thing worth mentioning is the fact that unlike influenza, from which people generally make a full recovery. Covid is often having long term effects on people that are debilitating for, well, we don't know how long, maybe forever... The CEO of Roadhouse restaurants recently committed suicide due to his long covid symptoms which he described as unbearable, and he isn't the only one.

2017-2018 Flu 2018-2019 Flu COVID-19
Cases 45 million 35 million 41 million
Deaths 61,000 34,157 670,036+

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/flu-vs-coronavirus-mortality-and-death-rates-by-year/

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 12th of September 2021 03:44:53 AM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

And how do you feel after taking two doeses of Pfizer and now looking at another booster in December, all the while knowing you could still get sick and die? Do you trust the people who justify charging $100 for an aspirin at the Hospital to be looking out for YOUR best interest or their own? Becuase honestly, it's not a vaccine unless it WORKS! Clearly this is not working when 20% of people who get the shot and come down with a breakthru case end up in the hospital and die.

Also I would like to point out your numbers from COVID-19 are for almost two years, while they are but a single year for the flu... Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe they scared half a million people to death?

Let's take a closer look PowerStroker, back in mid March I made a MEME using the current death toll being used to shut down the Government at that time (see the Coronavirus thread in March 2020 for proof of time stamp)

So there was 2,150 deaths BEFORE they shut everything down and caused this big scare! Remember PowerStroker, nobody in this country had ever heard of a flu or coronavirus before this shutting down the whole country. It was unprecedented!

You don't think the stress of said "shut-downs" killed a lot of people? How about when they started admitting COVID positive people in the Senior homes and facilities in Democrat states? During that period of chaos you could have died in an automobile accident and you still would have been listed as dying of COVID. They set up stadiums to treat the sick, even send a big Red Cross boat to take care of any overflow... none of it got used! Then everyone was making ventilators, none were being used at that time.

So from what I can see, based on the early numbers - the lockdowns and the masks DID NOT WORK! In fact they only served to scare people to death! Then as time went on and everyone realized that we were lied to and it wasn't just going to be "two weeks" and as people went broke and got behind on bills waiting for the slow ass government to send out the chump change money they probably were very stressed out! I know it to be true because I was monitoring my blood pressure at the time and it was the highest it's EVER BEEN in my records!

This mass hysteria had a very REAL impact on people and their health! Hypertension was now being labeled as COVID-19 blood clots! So now we have lots and lots of stressed out people in hypertension dying and being added to the COVID-19 rolls. And if you look at how sensationalized the whole thing was, photos of China spraying the streets with chemicals, big refrigerators full of dead bodied (because every morgue was shut down) and you start to see the workings of a grand scam cooked up not only by Democrats, but being pushed by Trump himself.

And let's also look at the fact that it's possible the shutdowns caused this whole thing by preventing the natural herd immunity! Had people just been allowed to carry on with their lives it might have spread quickly and been gone just like every other flu! But that is not what happend... people were basically locked up in their homes while businesses were shut down... the only thing they did with the shut-downs is prolong the unavoidable!

Now they have to come up with new varients to scare people, because COVID-19 is just sooooo 2019! It's 2021!

I think it's safe to say the Government killed most of these people. The Government kills people all the time, they could care less! If the Government REALLY cared our healthcare system wouldn't be totally fucked! If the Government cared insulin and medication would be free to everyone! What you suggest is just not reality and it really makes you look like an even bigger fool!

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I mean what the fuck is wrong with you people PowerStroker!!??

People lost their jobs, their income, their businesses and now a great many are going to lose their homes!

AND NONE OF THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE VIRUS ITSELF!

IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE LOCKDOWNS AND THE GOVERNMENT!

You can't deny that! Why aren't people putting the blame where it belongs!?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

To answer your question, I feel just fine after taking my 2 shots with another to come in December. Not only do I feel absolutely fine physically, but I feel fine knowing that my chances of getting a breakthrough case that actually results in hospitalization or death is almost statistically non-existent compared to people who are unvaccinated, of which about 2% in this country WILL die, which is an awful lot of people.

While some people may conceivably have been killed by the stress of shutdowns, I would venture that phenomenon would be even more rare than a vaccinated person dying. Now if we want to talk about some real death, we could look at what is happening to unvaccinated people by the hundreds of thousands in this country. A number by the way that would be MUCH higher were it not for the shutdowns and mitigation measures like masking. If you think some temporary measures like this hurt the economy, just imagine the economic effect of millions more American deaths that would have occurred without said measures.

Better to lose some jobs, some businesses, and some income than a few million people.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
To answer your question, I feel just fine after taking my 2 shots with another to come in December. Not only do I feel absolutely fine physically, but I feel fine knowing that my chances of getting a breakthrough case that actually results in hospitalization or death is almost statistically non-existent compared to people who are unvaccinated, of which about 2% in this country WILL die, which is an awful lot of people.

While some people may conceivably have been killed by the stress of shutdowns, I would venture that phenomenon would be even more rare than a vaccinated person dying. Now if we want to talk about some real death, we could look at what is happening to unvaccinated people by the hundreds of thousands in this country. A number by the way that would be MUCH higher were it not for the shutdowns and mitigation measures like masking. If you think some temporary measures like this hurt the economy, just imagine the economic effect of millions more American deaths that would have occurred without said measures.

Better to lose some jobs, some businesses, and some income than a few million people.

Y-A-F-I

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

IMO, I'm wondering how the "elite" could ever pull-off a bull-shyte scam like this again.

You can only cry-wolf so many times.

Don't forget that the next "big-one" is "possibly" going to be a faked-alien-invasion, using reverse-engineered, MAN-MADE craft, in a false-flag event, as stipulated by the late Werner von Braun, NASA Rocket scientist.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus, I only asked PowerStroker if he got the shots because he's been acting really strange and it's almost like he got one of them dog distemper shots!

He went from "mowing people down" to caring about everyone in the world, willing to give away everyone elses money and freedom so he could save an imaginary amount of lives.

Coincidence?

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I still want to mow down the 1-6 insurrectionists in a barrage of hot lead if it makes you feel better.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Oh you're such a Saint, PowerStroker!

(rolls eyes in sarcastic fashion)