Actually, three Republicans voted to release the Epstein list.

That said, I hear there is a new prison guard assigned at Ghislaine Maxwell's prison!

 

 

But seriously... all kidding aside -- you know damn well Bill Clinton and MANY upper crust Democrats are on that list as well! That is why Biden and the Democrats didn't release the list either! 

Question...

If Trump is found in the documents to have been a passenger on one of the lolita flights to the magic island, would you still support him?

Wrong, I want everybody on the list to pay for their crimes regardless of political affiliation. So what say you, do you feel the same? Are you outraged as I am, about the reluctance to release the info?

So you don't care if Trump raped children. I suspected as much, but at least we have clarified it for the record.

Good for him, I'm still glad he's dead though. I just want to see a list of people from either party who were involved so I can look forward to their downfall too.

My goal isn't to "get Trump" at this point. Trump is only the symptom of a deep sickness in this country. The voters put him in office for a second term, and I have to endure it. What motivates me more as it pertains to this case is curiosity about his political base... You see, my opinion of Trump is that he was a pretty horrible human even before he went into politics. Even back when he called himself a Democrat, I was disgusted by the man. I saw him as a pretty worthless trust fund baby, who habitually stiffed his contractors, lied, womanized, and was generally abusive to everyone. He never worked a real day in his life. Then when he was proven to be a rapist by 2 juries in civil cases, my opinion of him certainly didn't improve. Here is where my curiosity comes in though. I kept thinking that his base of supporters would at some point realize how horrible a person he is, and stop supporting him. When this didn't happen after the determination of rape, when it didn't happen after Charlottesville, when it didn't happen after January 6th, when it didn't happen after the felony convictions, it got me wondering if there is anything he could do to lose the support of his base. Maybe the Epstein files will reveal more about him than we already know, and if they do, I'm curious about whether the rape of a child would be enough for him to lose the support of his base. Somehow, I think not, and that's what bothers me the most. For one man to be evil is expected, for him to have enough political support to enact national policy, that's horrifying, because that's what Hitler did.

I've reached the conclusion that there is absolutely no level of cruelty that would cause his base to peel away, because his base LIKES cruelty. What I see in the MAGA base is not unlike the German right in the 1930's. I'm sure it was very macho, but it lead to the Holocaust, which is most horrific cruelty the world has ever seen. Instead of Jews though, now it's Hispanics. In any of the immigration detention centers, is there a single white European who overstayed their visa? Of course not, because it's not really about immigration, it's about ethnic cleansing. And when the detainees are held for months or even years without ever even being arraigned before a judge. Without a chance to dispute the accusation and provide proof to the contrary, the MAGA base will delight. And when the crematoriums are built and the ashes of people who were never even charged with a crime start raining down across the country, the MAGA base will delight even more.

Prove me wrong.

And WTF do you know about ethnic cleansing? You basically live in Somalia!

You're too stupid to see that you're being ethically cleansed from your own state! It's because you got Walz cock so far up your ass your brain is full of his load. 

Boy did America dodge a bullet! THANK GOD!

And what exactly is your problem with State Senator Fateh? Is it that he's the first Muslim to serve in the Minnesota state Senate and won the Democratic endorsement in his run for mayor of Minneapolis. If so, then how exactly am I wrong about my accusation that the MAGA base is really just about ethnic cleansing and no different whatsoever than the Nazis of the 1940's?

What makes YOU better than a Nazi supporter Rex? Can you list some differences?

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Tuesday 22nd of July 2025 01:08:36 PM

Exactly what crime is Obama being charged with, and what evidence is being offered?

Your comments on Muslims aren't all that unlike Hitler's comments on Jews. If you're trying to convince me that MAGA isn't about ethnic cleansing, you may want to try harder.

DOJ isn't going to charge Obama with anything. They would need evidence of a crime and are probably getting tired of getting laughed out of court these days.

I mean... what if they get Obama for Treason? Does that mean everyone who voted for him had a hand in it? 

You starting to understand why I said it was a VERY BAD idea to break precedent and go after Trump? No? Well if they haul Obama in for processing, you'll know how every Republican felt that day when they did it to Trump!

Sad fact of the matter is that Trump HAS NO CHOICE! He has to go after these bad apples or they will spoil the bunch! Trump knows not dealing with them now just means they will come back for another bite when he's a private citizen again.

Tulsi has handed over the "evidence" to the DOJ... I'm sure we will learn more about it in the days to come! 

Trump was convicted in a liberal shit-hole kangaroo court for charges that have been beyond the statutory limits by decades! Trump was never convicted of tax evasion! He was however railroaded by a lot of less than credible women who were more or less prostitutes. Money paid to Stormy was paid by his ATTORNEY who then turned on him! Obama, thru his donors sent all sorts of racist fucks to cities all over the United States to burn down and loot innocent Americans in his race-war! At least the J6'ers took out their frustrations on the institution they felt done them wrong, while leaving innocent American cities alone! Many are suggesting that lack of security, thanks to Nancy, is the reason J6 even happened! And as crazy as J6 was, nobody burnt down the capital -- unlike the Soros mobs who were provided bricks and money to burn down cities all over the country! Obama sent planes packed with cash to Iran -- which is WORSE than withholding Congressionally mandated assistance to ensure the pay-to-play in Ukraine was stopped. So quick to forget how Biden (under then President Obama) bragged about also firing a prosecutor in Ukraine if they didn't stop the investigation into his son's pay-to-play shenanigans there. 

We won't know if Obama stole any classified documents until the DOJ and FBI raid his home! With regards to the emoluments clause, Obama rented out the entire Taj Mahal for all his peeps on the Government card and went on NON-STOP International vacations -- he wen't from being broke and not even owning his Chicago home to being worth over and estimated $200 MILLION today -- along with MANY high value real estate properties! How does that happen with a $400,000 per year salary?

Obama (under Biden) may have had a hand in deprivation of J6'ers due process and posse comitatus as they sat locked away in DC jails! 

Last I checked, the person you're referring to who got $2 billion from the Saudi's was not Trumps blood son! Trump making a meme coin is really no different than Obama using speaking fees to take bribes... or Hunter selling horrible artwork for outrageous prices.

The SCOTUS decision that gives Presidents immunity was not respected under the Biden administration when it came to Trump! Hell New York even changed its laws and empaneled a team of "get Trump" lawyers and Judges to frame Trump! Having to dig back to the 1980's with a louse like E Jean and a stripper named Stormy! 

The fact is we don't know the extent of how much Obama fooled around while Biden was out of his mind during his four year term! But you can be sure we're going to find out! That big push Obama made to install Harris as the Presidential nominee without a fair vote from Democrats was very telling! Obama had enjoyed an unlimited credit line on his race card back in the day, but the 2024 red wave proved that Americans by and large were not impressed with the monster that Obama had become behind the curtain of Biden's Presidency! 

In fact, if you ask me -- this whole Epstein nonsense being floated right now was only to distract us from what was coming down the pipeline for Obama! Typical Democrat protocol! But Americans aren't buying it! 

And FYI -- giving a state sponsor of terror like IRAN plane loads of untraceable CASH is about as treasonous as you can get! 

By the way PowerStroker, who killed Obama's cook that drowned at his posh Hamptons estate? Word is the guy was a good swimmer and died in like 4 foot of water! 

Um... Obama sidestepped congress by using a special secret account (allegedly) for Presidents to settle international disagreements. We have been over this before!

Republicans would have stopped him -- but he just emptied out an account and flew that money there on planes in the dark of night!

I don't know why you keep supporting Obama on this! It's just crazy that you seem to think it was fine!

Not sure what congress set up that account... but Obama sure as hell figured out a way to cash it out!

I don't think we were in breach! In fact, every agreement with Iran ends with a breech, by Iran -- and in short order!

We know Democrats have no problems giving a radical Iran weapons, money -- whatever! 

Clearly from your responses lately there is no need for you to do any soul searching -- you sold it to the Democrat party long ago!

 

Not so fast PowerStroker!

That narrative is what Obama took upon himself to imply when he sent planes full of cash to Iran! It wasn't congress, or any court that ruled that Iran was owed any money! It was solely Obama's choice to send the funds to Iran, and in cash no less!

Just so we're clear!

 

Please provide a link where it was ruled that the US lost the case and was ordered to pay the money! You can't because it had never reached that point! Why you got to lie? Obama just decided to settle the suit, probably because he got a kickback! That would explain the HIGHLY unusual -- almost un-heard of amount that was paid in cash! 

I should also add, at the time Obama paid Iran all that money to bribe them into his crap ass Nuke deal -- Iran was holding US Service Men and Women HOSTAGE! 

So basically he also broke a long-standing US policy that we do not negotiate with terrorists!

You haven't a leg to stand on here PowerStroker! No court ordered the US to pay the money, Obama paid it in CASH, Broke long-standing protocol of not negotiating with terrorists and Iran violated the deal and was screaming death to America before the ink on the deal ever even dried!

Shocking how drunk on the donkey kool-aid you remain! 

I'm not worried about Iran! I'm worried about Democrats!

We completely obliterated their nuke program, and some jag-off like Obama will come along and give them a half billion dollars to rebuild it. CASH no less!

Putin should be arrested and tried for war crimes.

I'm not saying Iran is good, or that we should be forced to sell them fighter jets after they take our consulate and hostages. But after the hostages were released, we should refund any money they paid for things that we decided not to deliver, and the courts agree. We must conduct ourselves honorably, even when others don't. That's what makes us the shining city on the hill.

It is a world court whos rulings we agreed to abide with.

If you are paid for something you don't deliver, you owe a refund too. You're a business man, you should understand this.

Didn't the Iranian government conspire with Reagan to keep hostages until after the election to help the Republicans? I'm pretty sure I heard something credible about that.