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LT4 Vs. LT1

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The diffrences between the LT4 Grand Sport and GM's LT4 Conversion Kit

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RE: LT4 Vs. LT1

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RE: The diffrences between the LT4 Grand Sport and GM's LT4 Conversion Kit

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GM Performance LT4 Conversion kit PART NUMBERS

Stellar007 · Member

I dont know that the new Edelbrock air gap manifold would flow as much as the original LT4. It seems that the portion that they hollowed out to make it an "Air Gap" would take away from the volume of air the box can store/intake. Thats just my thoughts. Anyone out there using the Edelbrock air gap? If so what do you think?

Date: 10:25 PM Mar 21, 2008

RE: LT4 Vs. LT1

Administrator · $y$Op

LT4 heads come on the LT4 engines only. Same with the red intake.

You can still buy the LT4 conversion kit but they no longer sell the intake manifolds. It kind of makes you wonder if the heads are not far behind! I mean if they run out of intakes, they must be getting close to running out of the heads. I should stock up but the price is still WAY up there.

Administrator · $y$Op

Also read this write up about the LT1 and LT4 intake manifolds. It sheads some more light on the subject.

http://autotrend.activeboard.com/index.spark?forumID=91042&p=3&topicID=14783164

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Whatever you do be careful about information you get on www.ls1tech.com we have found this forum to be very poor with regards to keeping factual information on hand. Just the other day someone there tried telling us that an LT4 intake manifold will work on LT1 heads. For the record this is NOT TRUE.

Big Angry Hillbilly · User

An LT4 conversion for the most part, is a waste of money.

You can make factory aluminum LT1 castings flow MUCH better.

The LT4 Hot cam is a DECENT cam, but driveability and the powerband SUCKS.

The valvesprings on the LT4 heads in the conversion kit are barely enough spring to maintain constant follower to camshaft contact at high RPM's.

I know a guy with a stock shortblock LT1 car, with worked LT1 alum heads and an aftermarket cam, in a 4400LB car, that runs 11.90's. This is with a JUNKYARD SHORTBLOCK and LT1 heads.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I agree, the springs that come in the LT4 heads arent worth a damn. I do however dis-agree with what you are saying about the heads. Without spending a lot of time you would be hard pressed to make LT1 heads outfolw the LT4 heads. Then agian if you spent that kind of time on the LT4 heads, the LT1 heads would not hold a candle to them.

Just look at the cutaway's for both the heads. You can see they were made to allow more airflow.

I agree that more than enough power can be had from a properly built LT1, however do all that to an LT4 and you better watch out.

Big Angry Hillbilly · User

The main benefit of the LT1 over the LT4 is the powerband is drastically lowered, so you don't have to beat the piss outta the engine to make power.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

That sounds like moderation Hillbilly...

Are you turning a new leaf or something?

chandler330 · Rookie

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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

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Not so sure these links above are safe to click on... wish Rastus was still here, he loved clicking on this sort of thing.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
What are these?
.xml?
Not so sure these links above are safe to click on... wish Rastus was still here, he loved clicking on this sort of thing.

LOL !

To answer the questions prior about the head comparison, there's really no straight answer, unless you have a vacuum device with instrumentation to measure flow...

The variables to flow are / will be port to valve size ratio, followed by determining at what lift of the valve, offers the best flow.

Intake manifolds for EFI are best sourced that have bell intake runners ( of equal length ) for each cylinder, whilst feeding-off a common plenum-chamber, that can have single or multiple throttle-plates.

The above set-up is a 50 / 50 blend of IR ( independent runner ) & plenum-chamber designs.

Full IR systems will have their own throttle plate per cylinder, & enhance low-end get-up-&-go dramatically, since each cylinder isn't fighting the other for close proximity to the throttle-plate in a plenum-design. And equal volumetric efficiency is experienced for each cylinder. Top-end power is enhanced too.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Rex, how do you feel the 5.7 TPI compares overall to the LT1? I've heard people have had some dissatisfaction with the optispark and prefer having the distributor in the traditional place. Also how do you feel these compare to the Mustang 5.0? Having owned all of these you'd probably be a good person to ask.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I guess I'd have to start by asking, why? Are you looking for or at a GM sports car currently?

In general the TPI is known as a GEN ONE, as they were the 1st year of the one peice rear main seal. GEN Zero was the 350 that spanned decades and came with wax rope style rear main seals, and then the two piece. GEN0 was mostly your 60's and 70's and were usually fitted with carbs... the real early ones got nickel treatment so they were very strong compared to the later G1 and G2.

TPI is not a bad setup, and has a really cool look... in 350 trim they had some power too (for the period)... but you have to be careful because they also made the 5.0 liter TPI engines and they look almost exactly the same. Lots of threads already in how to identify them.

The LT1 is a very limited engine and is considered G2 but most of them put out about 300HP or close to that due to their improved designs. The optispark is for sure more work than your regular distributor but it's only on the front of the engine to accommodate the F Body Camaro/Firebird's newer cab forward design. You can't get that look and still have a distributor in the back, the LT1/LT4 also in the 91-up Corvettes -- although the earlier C4 Corvettes also had the TPI engine too 88-90ish. They could allow for the distributor in the rear on the Corvette due to it's super long clamshell hood.

The Ford 5.0 engine is a really good design for the year, with lots of power right off the rip if installed in a lighter Mustang... the best part about the 302's were the fact there are LOTS of aftermaket support... bolt on's out the wazoo! But the 351W is also a nice powerplant too -- does not spin up like a 5.0 -- but has that flat powerband like a 350 Chevy.

I like them both! Out of the hole and up to the 1/4 mile the 5.0 Ford is a ripper... but once you get past about 100MPH, the 5.0 starts to fall off -- where the 350 is good until about 140MPH before it starts to lose it's breath. Sure you could install power-adders on both to fix this but 140MPH is cooking on a public highway... so unless you're at the track, it's not really something most people are looking for. Just for reference, Linginfelter was able to get a 1988 TPI 350 to 254MPH on a track with the help of some turbochargers! This back in the 1980's even!

https://autotrend.activeboard.com/t65228746/254-mph-sledgehammer-1988-c4-corvette/

So I guess I'd go back to my original question of, "Why do you ask?"

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I've been falling out of love with the Ford brand over, well, I guess the last 10 years. Now they don't make a single product that I want to buy. So I was curious about the path I didn't take. Curious about what the main competitor of Ford was making back in the days when I actually liked what Ford was producing. It's far too late for me to switch brands as a dealer technician at this point in my career. But I just was wondering what if I had taken the other path at the beginning. Would my life be easier now? And since you are fluent in the GM performance products of the day, and since you currently have a 5.0 Mustang and a C4 Vette, it seemed like a good way to answer my question. I've driven 5.0 Mustangs, and I've driven a 305 carbureted firebird. I've also driven a LT1 powered gen 4 F body which I think threw me back in my seat harder than the 5.0 Mustang did, but I was 18 at the time and can't really remember it that well.

And I'm looking to the future. I'm looking to a time when I no longer work for Ford and what kind of vintage toy I might want to add to my garage someday. Thank you for your answers!

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Yo,

You have skills PowerStroker, & it only takes a few-weeks to adapt to a new work environment. I'd go to Toyota if I were you. Generally speaking, the cars don't break, & the new water-powered car would be an enviable thing to learn about, & then fit an adaptor-kit to your 460 monster truck.

No fuel bill sounds good to me...

The job would be a walk-in with your history.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

It takes many years to learn all of the nuances of a brand if you want to play at the highest level. If I switched brands, I'd basically have to start over as a light duty technician. By the time I actually learned another brand and became as effective with their advanced diagnostic issues as I am with Ford, it would be time for retirement. I don't want to be the guy constantly asking questions, I like being the guy that other people ask.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

PowerStroker wrote:
It takes many years to learn all of the nuances of a brand if you want to play at the highest level. If I switched brands, I'd basically have to start over as a light duty technician. By the time I actually learned another brand and became as effective with their advanced diagnostic issues as I am with Ford, it would be time for retirement. I don't want to be the guy constantly asking questions, I like being the guy that other people ask.

Yo,

1. Generally at dealerships, you only work on warranty vehicles , generally less than 10-years old.

2. Swapping over is good, you start learning once again.

3. I've worked at a number of Dealerships & places that work on everything, & you learn more by default at the gas-station jobs per-se. You have no choice but to fix it.

4. You'll also meet new people too, some most excellent, some not -so-great.

5. If you don't like where you work, you can always move-on.

6. You can scale-down your tool-chest into an alround portable work-hourse, where only the regularly used tools keep working, not taking-up space.

7. This will set-you-up to work from home.

8. It seems that you need a change, but are too regimented. This is unhealthy. It's good to serve.

9. A place like Toyota is a retirement place, as the cars don't generally break. This means you can relax, focus on more important things whilst earning an income.

10. Your skill-set & knowledge will explode. This is unsettling & can be uncomfortable at times, but you will feel alive once again.

-- Edited by Rastus on Sunday 12th of January 2025 04:14:38 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Toyota does indeed break... I fix quite a few of them here!

Not only that, the new V6 Toyota engine they released to replace the V8's is garbage and they are having problems with them to the point people are demanding recalls.

The only thing more pedestrian than a Toyota is you, Rastus.

PowerStroker would be a fool to walk away from his job and start over at somewhere like Toyota... not everyone is living on an island off their parents trust fund like you, Rastus.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
T1.oyota does indeed break... I fix quite a few of them here!
2.Not only that, the new V6 Toyota engine they released to replace the V8's is garbage and they are having problems with them to the point people are demanding recalls.
3.The only thing more pedestrian than a Toyota is you, Rastus.
4.PowerStroker would be a fool to walk away from his job and start over at somewhere like Toyota... not everyone is living on an island off their parents trust fund like you, Rastus.

R1. Yes, at your place, not at a dealership...

R2. So PowerStroker might have something to do afterall !

R3. I doubt that.

R4. My folks are still alive. I made a shyte-load of money as a MEO at sea. But you know this already...Short memory...

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Wrong, Rastus!

A Toyota vehicle requires maintance just like ANY OTHER VEHICLE! Brakes, Tires, Oil Changes, Valve Cover Gaskets, Tune Up's, Timing Chain guides and tensioners, wheel bearigs, shocks, struts and everything else any other car requires! Toyota also has their fair share of recalls and "still new" problems -- I know you would like us all to forget about the Run-Away-Toyota's while they were still trying to figure out drive by wire.

Futhermore, trust fund babies don't have to wait for their parents to die in order to get structured payments from their parents interest... it's quite common... there is also nepotism, such that could allow someone who might not be quite a Captian to serve in a roll further down the trough -- where they get paid a shyte-load of money for being the kid of rich parents (ie: Hunter)... furthermore, most "REAL" Capitans of the sea will die at sea with a long grey beard -- a peg leg and hook for one of their hands... but you also have your daft bastards out there who don't know when someone is rattling their cage and get sucked up into their own game.

I'd put you somewhere around the latter. biggrin

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
1.Wrong, Rastus!
2.A Toyota vehicle requires maintance just like ANY OTHER VEHICLE! Brakes, Tires, Oil Changes, Valve Cover Gaskets, Tune Up's, Timing Chain guides and tensioners, wheel bearigs, shocks, struts and everything else any other car requires! Toyota also has their fair share of recalls and "still new" problems -- I know you would like us all to forget about the Run-Away-Toyota's while they were still trying to figure out drive by wire.
3.Futhermore, trust fund babies don't have to wait for their parents to die in order to get structured payments from their parents interest... it's quite common... there is also nepotism, such that could allow someone who might not be quite a Captian to serve in a roll further down the trough -- where they get paid a shyte-load of money for being the kid of rich parents (ie: Hunter)... furthermore, most "REAL" Capitans of the sea will die at sea with a long grey beard -- a peg leg and hook for one of their hands... but you also have your daft bastards out there who don't know when someone is rattling their cage and get sucked up into their own game.
4.I'd put you somewhere around the latter.

LOL !!!

R1. Whatever...

R2. No shyte !...The last dealeship I worked for, was owned by the Launceston Motor Group, & they had dealerships all around the state. We would have monthly meetings that discussed the efficiency of all the many & varied brands. Toyota was always 100% efficiency as professed by the general manager, Pete Brown. Take it up with him for further debate. His words indicated that Toyota was a cruisy place to work, since there was obviously limited down-time to get that efficiency month after month.

R3. Whatever...I worked hard, & I earned a shyte-load of money...And I have more coming too...I did indicate for you & or your son to take a job-at-sea, but it seems that a MB dealership (which is where I came from originally) was all he wanted, & what you wish to continue doing yourself. Too bad. I also indicated that the mines are great for earning big-bux, but you were too scared to take the jump into better fortunes for some reason. You wouldn't be in debt now for the rest-of-your-life if you listened, but laziness & lack-of-vision / incentive seem to be your modus-operandi sadly.

R4. To be honest Stellar, when my folks do pass-on someday, it will be a curse to inherit the wealth, as I'm so-well-off now. The added wealth rises me too high on the ladder, & I 'm forced to become a capitalist, like Mr.trumpdt...And who want to be like that ???...

Nb. Lots of typos from getting used to new lap-top.Wndows 11 is shyte.

-- Edited by Rastus on Sunday 12th of January 2025 06:33:17 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Truth be told Rastus -- if you were ever a GOOD mechanic you'd know that mechanics are paid on commission -- not flat rate. That being said, a good mechanic would want to work for a company that has lots of issues with their vehicles... otherwise they aren't going to make any money. You don't know that because you have only ever been paid hourly rate in the automotive business, that is because much like your meager carrer at sea (prolly born out of nepositim) you were just paid a flat amount to appease someone who really did have skills and influence in the industry. This can be backed up by your not renewing your sea credentials. You don't care because you never did! Sorry if that hurts.

But again, you haven't a clue! You also haven't a clue when it comes to business and debt -- why? Because you're a trust-fund baby! I'm not in debt for the rest of my life -- the company is! I could sell all my assets and live quite well, get into hobbies like star-gazing or something stupid like that -- but that is not my thing! I like fixing cars and watching and learning as technology evolves! It's my passion! The stigma of laziness and lack of vision seems to fit you much better my trust-fund-friend! Your modus operandi seems to be in imaginary beings from outer-space giving you all your answers.

Let me give you an example... if you die with $100,000 or even a BILLION dollars in the bank -- can you take it with you? The correct answer is NO! No you cannot! Now if someone dies with lots of assets they have enjoyed for decades -- and their company is $100,000 in debt, isn't that more or less like taking it with you? I'm sorry Rastus, but you're just not applying yourself -- I assume that is why you got dumped off on the island... but this is pure speculation on my part -- because I like to give as good as I get.

Have a nice night! smile

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
Truth be told Rastus -- if you were ever a GOOD mechanic you'd know that mechanics are paid on commission -- not flat rate. That being said, a good mechanic would want to work for a company that has lots of issues with their vehicles... otherwise they aren't going to make any money. You don't know that because you have only ever been paid hourly rate in the automotive business, that is because much like your meager carrer at sea (prolly born out of nepositim) you were just paid a flat amount to appease someone who really did have skills and influence in the industry. This can be backed up by your not renewing your sea credentials. You don't care because you never did! Sorry if that hurts.
But again, you haven't a clue! You also haven't a clue when it comes to business and debt -- why? Because you're a trust-fund baby! I'm not in debt for the rest of my life -- the company is! I could sell all my assets and live quite well, get into hobbies like star-gazing or something stupid like that -- but that is not my thing! I like fixing cars and watching and learning as technology evolves! It's my passion! The stigma of laziness and lack of vision seems to fit you much better my trust-fund-friend! Your modus operandi seems to be in imaginary beings from outer-space giving you all your answers.
Let me give you an example... if you die with $100,000 or even a BILLION dollars in the bank -- can you take it with you? The correct answer is NO! No you cannot! Now if someone dies with lots of assets they have enjoyed for decades -- and their company is $100,000 in debt, isn't that more or less like taking it with you? I'm sorry Rastus, but you're just not applying yourself -- I assume that is why you got dumped off on the island... but this is pure speculation on my part -- because I like to give as good as I get.
Have a nice night!

ROTFLMAO !!!

R1, I am great mechanic Stallar, but I make a better Marine Engineer Officer, that's why I could retire now...I've made enough money, & I was always going to revise my circumstances after a 10-year period, which is when COronaVIrusDisease2019 was in full swing. This is when I realized that participating in CE-5 & exposing the truth was far more important than anything else.

R2. You're simply lazy, & so self-absorbed, that sadly you can't see beyond yourself, or your debt. Get into CE-5 & learn the truth.

R3. I don't need to know about business because my skills were well paid for, & hard earned, see R1.

R4. All my life I searched for things that money can't buy, & Star Family has provided me with more than I ever dreamed of.

All I've ever suggested to you is to get the most out of your skills, from the person who pays the most, that way, you can retire like me, instead of working your ass off until you die.

Your decision, I couldn't give a rats-ass whether you listen or not.

And by your reply, I know it eats you up that there are so-many people out in this world, that have more brains than you & use them.

RIP !

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Could you keep all your personal problems and cult recruitment efforts in the MBTP off topic area?

I know you think your sh!t don't stink -- but this verbal diarrhea of your keyboard is stinking up this thread. Nobody reading this thread for LT1 or LT4 info cares about your opinions or trust fund... that is the real truth.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
1.Could you keep all your personal problems and cult recruitment efforts in the MBTP off topic area?
2.I know you think your sh!t don't stink -- but this verbal diarrhea of your keyboard is stinking up this thread. Nobody reading this thread for LT1 or LT4 info cares about your opinions or trust fund... that is the real truth.

R1. I have no personal problems Stellar. Your posts indicate otherwise however...CE-5 is not a cult, it's an awakening to the truth...Short memory...

R2. My shit doesn't stink Stellar...You've already broken your own rules before, as you've cleaned-out this thread already at least once. I remember reading quite a lot of stuff in here that's disappeared. Perhaps that's why PowerStroker bumped the interest in GM V-8's ?...

Why would people read about outdated LT1 or LT4 stuff in here, when there must be 100 different authorized books on the subject ?...And there's people like Nick's Garage with dyno's that people can tune into, so why come here ?...It's not as though you're building them everyday is it.

The best thread in this place in recent times without doubt is PowerStrokers 460 rebuild. You should reread your contibutions in that thread so as-to see how out-of-touch you are. Your replies stink, & show / reveal much about your poor demenour, & need to dominate...

Anyhow, I 'm not even sure if I'm talking to Stellar, Stoma, SELLC or Administrator...

Confused...

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You're welcome to take your cult recrutment efforts on over to Nick's Garage! I have never heard of the guy before and had to look it up since we have a local Nick's Garage in town (no relation to the YouTube guy)... and I might add that it looks like Nick is into old vehicles, primarly Chrysler vehicles.

I don't know how you can claim your shit dont stink and then suggest that I have a poor demeanor... I think you got lots of problems that probably go way back. But that is not my problem, it's yours.

Glad to hear you enjoyed PowerStrokers truck engine rebuild thread -- and you're entiteled to your own opinion on what content you like the best... just like I am entitled to share my opinion about some of the things he did, but for whatever reason -- in your twisted mind I'm not allowed to have my own opinion, and to suggest something it's a need for dominance.

People like this old data because there isn't anything new out for the LT1 and LT4 engine -- at least for Generation II... the new Corvettes have LT engines once more, but they are probably beyond your comprehension and you'll probably just balk at horsepower numbers just like you did on the Hertz GTH Shelby Mustang numbers -- and if you don't think Ford's has dyno's, well you'd be a fool. Lest we forget how you got in a big huff about the Milwaukee power tool torque ratings -- and insisted that they were wrong, as if to suggest that I was the person who made them. Just all kinds of crazy shit out of your head, all the time!

I currently hold three handles in here, one as the Administrator (came with the site)... the other is my SELLC and Stellar007 moniker -- which I wanted to preserve as my own. I don't think it's a big deal at all, and I don't try to hide it... but now you are suggesting that I'm Stoma? Anyone who has read his/her post would know it sure as hell isn't me. I don't know why you clamour over him/her -- they didn't seem to like you very much either!

I currently OWN THREE VEHICLES with the LT1 engine... How about you, Rastus? Did that Holden station wagon your mommy and daddy bought you have an LT1 engine in it?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
1.You're welcome to take your cult recrutment efforts on over to Nick's Garage! I have never heard of the guy before and had to look it up since we have a local Nick's Garage in town (no relation to the YouTube guy)... and I might add that it looks like Nick is into old vehicles, primarly Chrysler vehicles.
2.I don't know how you can claim your shit dont stink and then suggest that I have a poor demeanor... I think you got lots of problems that probably go way back. But that is not my problem, it's yours.
3.Glad to hear you enjoyed PowerStrokers truck engine rebuild thread -- and you're entiteled to your own opinion on what content you like the best... just like I am entitled to share my opinion about some of the things he did, but for whatever reason -- in your twisted mind I'm not allowed to have my own opinion, and to suggest something it's a need for dominance.
4.People like this old data because there isn't anything new out for the LT1 and LT4 engine -- at least for Generation II... the new Corvettes have LT engines once more, but they are probably beyond your comprehension and you'll probably just balk at horsepower numbers just like you did on the Hertz GTH Shelby Mustang numbers -- and if you don't think Ford's has dyno's, well you'd be a fool. Lest we forget how you got in a big huff about the Milwaukee power tool torque ratings -- and insisted that they were wrong, as if to suggest that I was the person who made them. Just all kinds of crazy shit out of your head, all the time!
5.I currently hold three handles in here, one as the Administrator (came with the site)... the other is my SELLC and Stellar007 moniker -- which I wanted to preserve as my own. I don't think it's a big deal at all, and I don't try to hide it... but now you are suggesting that I'm Stoma? Anyone who has read his/her post would know it sure as hell isn't me. I don't know why you clamour over him/her -- they didn't seem to like you very much either!
6.currently OWN THREE VEHICLES with the LT1 engine... How about you, Rastus? Did that Holden station wagon your mommy and daddy bought you have an LT1 engine in it?

ROTFLMAO !!! Tou're such an ass-hole, I simply can't resist playing tennis with you lol, at least for a little while...

R1. See how out-of-touch you are...I bet you're still trying to find over 40-net HP like Mc.Lair with your 560 build, or is that another unfinished under-achievement ?????? It's only been 10-years & counting...

R2. Whatever man.

R3. Have another drink . toke & snort Stellar, it will do you some good.

R4. Stellar qt."They say it's got 1,600 ft/lbs, but it feels more like 1,000"...*And you think I have problems, when you're claiming that shyte from a plastic hand-held electric toy...

R5. Stoma is an ass-hale, & so are you. That makes you one-&-the-same...Look at your net surfing, just like Stoma.

R6. My earning capacity is around $300,000 a year, with 6-months leave, pay included...You know this, & you think that my folks bought me a car ???...

I do feel sorry for you Stellar in that you failed in growing your fathers inherited business...I guess that's why...

1. You borrowed money from Genocide-Joe...

2. You voted for Genocide-Joe in appreciation of this debt.

3. You'll be in debt all your life.

4. You'll be working in payment of this debt until you can't work any longer...

5. And yet, PowerStroker caught-you-out by indicating that the people-of-America will give you this money & if you can't pay-it-back, your assets are protected when you file bankruptcy, which is why you wanted the loan in the first place.

6.You still have time to change your corrupted ways, it's all good.

7.All this above shyte doesn't matter at all, as it's your circumstance. I'm trying to give you options to wipe away the shyte, but some folks like to stink of it,it seems.

8. It's all in here folks if you look around, unless our host has edited it away of course lol.

You don't have to be a fraud all-your-life, or a horrible person. I'd drop your inherited business, move on, & get on with a more successful career. People will pay you good wages.

***Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire, & our host does nothing but make fights. I apologize for offending anyone, I didn't really enjoy posting any of these truths at all.

Get into CE-5, learn the truth, & leave the lies behind.

-- Edited by Rastus on Friday 17th of January 2025 11:53:57 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You're unhinged, Rastus!

All my Mercedes paid me handsomely to even look at them, not only that I drove one for 10 years! It's served it's purpose! I got to raise my family, while driving a Mercedes built out of scraps from other Mercedes that were bought and sold for parts and repair.

Whatever man? Sure you're not the one packing shyte up your nose?

I still use my Milwaukee power tools every day! The big one does feel like 1,600 ft pounds now that I've had it for more than just a week... used it on different things and it rips stuff on and off.

Your "earning capacity"? WTF does that even mean? LOL

Don't feel sorry for me Rastus... I'm master certified and plan on working another 25 years in my field.

Fuck your CE5 BS, clearly it's made you bloody mad!

Oh, and BTW -- I don't edit anyones post! I have deleted some spam, but you're FOS saying I have edited away anything. The only time I edit MY OWN post is to fix spelling errors that I catch later.

-- Edited by SELLC on Saturday 18th of January 2025 01:21:35 AM