Griffiss Air Force Base

Administrator · $y$Op

The pledge of allegiance is no longer performed before the start of school anymore

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

You mean to tell me this all started in 2008!?

NAW! Say it aint so!

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Think it went back even furthur in some schools. Not sure.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I think Im going to vomit

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

LOL,

Your flag doesn't stand for what it once used to SELLC...

It sounds to me like a pledge into Military service to be quite honest. And for the moment you don't "have to" be in the Military...

Did Mr.Obama's grand-plan come to fruition ?...Of where every US-of-A citizen must complete at least 3-months basic military training in their own time & cost, between the age of 18-24 ?

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Rastus wrote:

Did Mr.Obama's grand-plan come to fruition ?...Of where every US-of-A citizen must complete at least 3-months basic military training in their own time & cost, between the age of 18-24 ?

No it didn't but all my life I have said EVERYONE should at least do basic training. Israels mandatory 2 years service is even better.

On the other hand though, majority are fat, stupid and can only do social sites and I phones. Makes me sick. I volunteered during Nam. Dad and Unc volunteered in WW2. Dad was 15 and on subs, Sea of Japan. Also on a top producer sun "Silversides" top 3. "The War Below" by James Scott. Great book. Stories Dad told me about (and rarely talked of anything about the war) are in the book.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Yo,

I think that there's plenty of countries in Europe where the 2-year service is required, or at least was.

Not everyone wants to join-in on a call-to-arms Shawnee, given the choice.

I like to believe that no one wants war at all, anywhere in the world.

There are no winners IMO in war. There's only the happy bankers that fund both sides to make profit. And of course now-days, the nuke industry, as that's where the dirty weapons are at...

Sick society.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Right Mate, no one wins in war. Not everyone is up to fighting even if it's in defense of their own country. I understand that and accept it, there are plenty who will serve.

Just feel invaluable lessons are there to be learned with some military service. Even just basic training.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Shawnee_B wrote:
Right Mate, no one wins in war. Not everyone is up to fighting even if it's in defense of their own country. I understand that and accept it, there are plenty who will serve.

Just feel invaluable lessons are there to be learned with some military service. Even just basic training.

Fair enough...

I think that the way modern weaponry is today, & the fact that the US-of-A develops it, is maybe a reason why basic training isn't pushed on anyone...

But then when you think of how NORAD was unable to do anything for near 80-minutes on 9/11, it goes-to-show that the people up-near-the-top are capable of doing anything they want, so no basic training is going to help anyone when diabolical deeds like this are played-out, when the US-of-A's biggest enemy are American politicians...

And with today's weapons I'd like to be running the other way looking for shelter rather than facing MOAB or a Nuke...

At some point, survival out-weighs a fight & orders...

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Rastus wrote:
Shawnee_B wrote:
Right Mate, no one wins in war. Not everyone is up to fighting even if it's in defense of their own country. I understand that and accept it, there are plenty who will serve.

Just feel invaluable lessons are there to be learned with some military service. Even just basic training.
Fair enough...
I think that the way modern weaponry is today, & the fact that the US-of-A develops it, is maybe a reason why basic training isn't pushed on anyone...
But then when you think of how NORAD was unable to do anything for near 80-minutes on 9/11, it goes-to-show that the people up-near-the-top are capable of doing anything they want, so no basic training is going to help anyone when diabolical deeds like this are played-out, when the US-of-A's biggest enemy are American politicians...
And with today's weapons I'd like to be running the other way looking for shelter rather than facing MOAB or a Nuke...
At some point, survival out-weighs a fight & orders...

That could be. Just that some things are learned in basic training most will never learn. Discipline, teamwork, hygiene, physical workouts,,,, goes on and on. Millenials and snowflakes NEED THAT. Living in mommys basement, playing xbox and eating doritos isn't going to cut it in the long run. (less your gonna be an obama drone operator)

I was NORAD. I have been inside Cheyene mountains main control room in the caves and all over it. NORAD, ADC, 49th Fighter Interceptor Group, Griffis AFB. Griff could have had a pair of fighters there in less than 3 minutes, so could have Langley in VA, minutes. And they can shoot down anything including civilian airliners if they pose a threat. Diabolical is right, I know exactly how ADC and NORAD work, it was a "stand down order" and came from Bush. I knee that a few minutes after the attack and all uninformed people going nuts in town at the PO etc.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

I read some libtards 30+ page dissertation disclaiming anything I said or anyone in the know said. He claimed the ELT (emergency locator transmitters) were turned off. Most of his premise. He claimed NORAD could not locate the jets cause the ELTs were off. No shit Einstien, they are not turned on until an emergency.

Now what the retard did not understand is there is a box called IFF (Interrogation Friend or Foe) Every aircraft that is instrument rated or above HAS ONE. Turned off, you don't take off. That simple. If you can not be indentified ADC scrambles, tower tells you to correct your flight path, don't? Byebye. Simple.

I worked Delta Dart F106. MA1 weapons control systems. They always had 2 in a joker pod, pilots sleeping there. 1.5 min they could be airborne, 4.5 min weapon systems fully warmed and ready. That was early 70's, I'm sure technology and response time now are much higher!

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Griffiss Air Force Base

LOCATION

Rome, New York

BUILT

February 1942

DECOMMISSIONED

September 1995

OPERATOR

United States Air Force (USAF)

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Aerial view of Griffiss Air Force Base.

An F-106A deployed to the 49th Fighter Interceptor Squadron at Griffiss Air Force Base in 1970.

T-33A parked at the ramp of Griffiss Air Force Base.

Aerial view of Griffiss Air Force Base.

An F-106A deployed to the 49th Fighter Interceptor Squadron at Griffiss Air Force Base in 1970.

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Griffiss Air Force Base (GAFB) is located 24km north-west of Utica in Rome, New York. Built on a 3,552-acre site, the fighter base opened in February 1942. It was initially known as Rome Air Depot (RAD) and carried out fighter interceptor missions, electronic research, installation, aerial refuelling and bomber operations.

The base was decommissioned in 1995. It is currently serving as the Griffiss Business and Technology Park, housing private and public enterprises.

Griffiss Air Force Base history

Owned and operated by the United States Air Force (USAF), the RAD was originally built to repair and overhaul aircraft engines. The War Department ordered the facility to be built in June 1941.

Construction began on 2 August 1941. The flight operations were commenced on 18 February 1942. The air depot was occupied by the US Army Air Forces (now USAF) for operations on 24 March 1942.

It was renamed Griffiss Air Force Base in September 1948 after a series of renamings and realignments between 1942 and 1948.

Electronics research activities at the base began in 1949. Watson Laboratory Complex was migrated from Red Bank to Rome between 1950 and 1951. Inaugurated on 12 June 1951, the Rome Air Development Center (RADC) at the base met the electronic requirements of the USAF by installing the AFLC communications-electronics field office which monitors missile tests. A new intelligence and reconnaissance laboratory was built in May 1954.

Griffiss Air Force Base (GAFB) is located 24km north-west of Utica in Rome, New York.

A composite medical facility was built in 1974 and the electronic research facility was opened in 1976. The construction of the weapons system security alert area and the control tower was completed in March 1979 and June 1980 respectively. The air-launched cruise missile (ALCM) support facility and the NORAD regional operational control centre were opened in November 1981.

The RADC was renamed as Rome Laboratory in 1991 and started to execute research and development activities.

In 1992, it became part of the Air Force Material Command (AFMC) to develop command, control, communications and intelligence (C3I) system technologies.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) launched a $138m clean-up programme to remove more than 2,900 acres of hazardous area from the base as part of the Interagency Agreement signed in June 1990. It also planned to transfer part of the property in advance through covenant deferral request (CDR).

GAFB was chosen for realignment in July 1993 under the 1990 Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) act for converting the base operations to civilian and commercial missions. It was ultimately decommissioned on 30 September 1995.

Garrison facilities

The base served as headquarters for AFMC, 4,104th Army Air Force Base Unit, 65th Reconnaissance Group, 71st Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, 27th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, 6,530th Air Base Wing, 465th Air Refuelling Squadron, 2,856th Air Base Wing, 4,247th Air Defence Group, 49th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, 41st Air Refuelling Squadron, 56th Munitions Maintenance Squadron and 4,039th Strategic Wing (renamed as 416th Bombardment Wing (416 BW) in February 1963).

Other tenant units included 485th Engineering Installation Group (485 EIG), 21st Air Division, 10th Mountain Division, 24th Air Division, Rome Laboratory, 509th Air Refuelling Squadron (509 ARS), 2,019th Information Systems Squadron and Strategic Air Command (SAC).

Air facilities

Griffiss Air Force base operated F-101 Voodoos until 1968. The F-106 Delta Darts deployed in the 49th Fighter Interceptor Squadron replaced the F-101 in 1969. It was inactivated in July 1987. The base also accommodated KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft, B-52H, UH-1 transport helicopter, AH-1F combat helicopter and OH-58A reconnaissance helicopter.

Griffiss Air Force base operated F-101 Voodoos until 1968.

A 6,500ft hard concrete surface runway was built at the base in 1942. The length of the runway was further extended to 12,000ft in July 1958 to operate Boeing KC-135 and the B-52 aircraft. The airfield is currently used by Griffiss International Airport.

Other Griffiss facilities

The base has a secure and storage area for the staff, an aircraft engine run-up facility and mobile hospital storage facilities.

I worked those jets, was there Jan 73. It was SAC base, ADC was a tenet. There was a huge B52 presence, KC135 fuelers of course. The occasional SR71 and U2. Lots of exercises, war games Marines showed etc. Pretty cool

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Awesome post Shawnee !

I respect your honesty in the highest degree, & understand a little of your frustration, though have nothing to offer as consolation I'm afraid.

Perhaps SELLC can arrange the other posts in some way that align with the typeset ?...It's hard to read the writing from where I'm at.

Those F106's are an elegant looking machine.

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN

Rastus wrote:
Awesome post Shawnee !

I respect your honesty in the highest degree, & understand a little of your frustration, though have nothing to offer as consolation I'm afraid.

Perhaps SELLC can arrange the other posts in some way that align with the typeset ?...It's hard to read the writing from where I'm at.

Those F106's are an elegant looking machine.

I don't know what happened with the copy/paste! Sorry.

Yes F106 were awesome. F102 came first the "Dagger" Not as fast or maneuverable. F106 was more coke bottle shaped then it got a new weapons system upgrade. Was our main fighter interceptor for many years!

-- Edited by Shawnee_B on Saturday 15th of December 2018 02:53:33 PM

Shawnee_B · FAR BEYOND DRIVEN