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PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

How will Trump's policies effect the national debt?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Well, typically, history repeats itself with regards to the US-of-A & the budget...( And it's a very similar result here in Oz too, depending on whether the left or the right is in power )...

Check this out....

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/03/cnn-fact-check-the-last-president-to-balance-the-budget/

Ciao,

Rastus

stoma · Member

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SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:
As of today Feb 10 2017, the US National Debt is $19,974,291,969,675.
Let's see how President Trump does over the next 4 years with regard to increasing or decreasing this number, any predictions?

Well, for starters... Trump will be President for 8 years..

That said, I think that number will greatly decrease over the next 4 years since Trump knows it's important. What I find odd, PowerStroker, is that you haven't been in the least bit concerned about it over the past 8 years while your boy doubled it. You are aware that when your boy Obama inherited the debt it was only $10 trillion, and that was taking into account the 43 Presidents before him.

Tell me PowerStroker, how is it that you can even mention this with a straight face knowing that from #1 thru #43 it was $10 trillion combined... Yet #44 (Obama) doubled that in just 8 short years, all by himself.

Now you want to ask me what #45 is going to do about it?

Wow!

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I'm fully aware that the debt increased under Obama, and have brought it up many times. Part of the reason was from off budget wars started during the prior administration, and another big part was healthcare which Obama spent the entirety of his political capital trying to fix, and the Affordable Care Act is actually succeeding in reducing that aspect of government debt. It is now up to Trump to carry the ball and run with it. Trump needs to improve upon the Affordable Care Act, and either dramatically cut military spending, or find a new revenue stream for it. The kinds of things the Republican Congress would never help Obama accomplish.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

LOL,

On the 20th January, Mr.Trump was handed the "keys'' to your Nuclear arsenal, & apparently found it a very sobering event, remembering the quote of the late Mr.Nixon "I can go into my office, & in less than 25-minutes, have over 70-milion people killed"...

He then decided that the US-of-A drastically needed to increase its Nuclear Arsenal... ( LOL )... He's obviously not in-touch with the fact of the capabilities of your current arsenal being capable of destroying the world 5+-times over...What an idiot...And you elected him...

Should you guys not introduce new taxes to pay for this, your debt will increase substantially. In fact, I'd say you're ****ed...Actually, if Congress doesn't take absolute authority away from him being able to set-off the Nukes by himself, without congress intervention & discussion, we all may be ****ed, as we watch Mr.Trump disappear onto his own old-age-dottage...

Ciao,

Rastus

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

I don't envision Congress taking the nuke keys away from the president, if for no other reason than they don't want that responsibility themselves. Currently the debt is about 105% of GDP, the last time we were leveraged more than 100% of GDP was in World War 2.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

PowerStroker wrote:
I don't envision Congress taking the nuke keys away from the president, if for no other reason than they don't want that responsibility themselves. Currently the debt is about 105% of GDP, the last time we were leveraged more than 100% of GDP was in World War 2.

Apparently in your constitution, for you folks to go to war, it has to be passed through congress. This has been over-looked for many years. And also, anyone in the Military that has anything to do with Nukes, is screened, psych - tested, & pressure cooked, before being admitted into the clan....

It seems that the lack-of-confidence in Mr.Trump, has made a few officials re-think the current situation, where setting-off-nukes, is an act of war, & as such, needs to be passed through Congress. And I wholeheartedly agree here. Even if it's in the event of a retaliation strike too. Accidents happen, & just because the "enemy" has a "crazy" leading the country, doesn't mean you need to mirror the mistake...

I'm not saying "take the keys away from Mr.trump", but let's make sure there's a process in place, before he gets to push the button. I'm sure that if any missiles are flying your way, everyone will agree to sending a few back. But it would be really silly to let Mr.Trump, or anyone have this decision to themselves, especially when they haven't been screened to be capable of holding such responsibilities.

Lets face it, his mind is going & he's better served in retirement at Heff's mansion, than leading any country.

Ciao,

Rastus

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

Well, technically you're right, only congress can actually declare a war. The president however has complete control of the military and has broad authority to deploy our forces in military actions even if congress doesn't officially declare such actions as being a war. The only process that could have kept the nuclear codes away from President Trump was the election. The opportunity for the voters to evaluate President Trump as being qualified for this office has come and gone. He and he alone has the entirety of the nuclear arsenal at his fingertips, and the commanders in the field with direct control over their deployment are duty sworn to obey him immediately and without question. In reality, President Trump could walk downstairs, step inside the White House Situation Room and order an immediate nuclear strike against any country he wants, and do so without getting any permission from Congress. Congress could impeach him after the fact, but the damage would already be done. In fact, the only thing President Trump can't do with the military is use it against American citizens. Though if he wanted to use force against the citizenry, he can nationalize any civilian law enforcement agency, and any state's national guard. Kind of depressing isn't it?

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

Yes, it's actually really depressing...On a great many differing levels...I guess you just have to take the good with the bad.

If I'm not mistaken, Mr.Bush Jr. secretly made the amendments that gave the President all these dictatorship rights ( which is really what they are ) back in 2001, before 9/11...I hope that there's a way to pull-back on the amount of free-power given to the president, especially ones that are too old to govern effectively, like Mr.Trump.

On a positive note, he apparently "high-fived" Japanese President Abe over 18-holes of golf...And I thought Mr. Abe would have been asking for help with the Fukushima disaster, that's just about to take a turn for the worst, once the buildings collapse. Maybe he's just apologizing in advance for the radiation yet to arrive State-side...(I'll update the nuke thread soon, as it seems France has had a near-miss at one of their nuke-plants)...

Later,

Rastus

-- Edited by Rastus on Saturday 11th of February 2017 09:39:07 PM

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I don't know what either one of you are talking about... Because apparently while President Trump can nuke any nation at any time, he can't even order an immigration freeze!?

It's a good thing President Trump controls the nukes given our current liberal judiciary hell bent on obstruction!

I myself have had to deal with these liberal judges and I can tell you 100% for a fact that it's a serious problem and not just something President Trump has just made up. The current status quo as it pertains to liberal judges is eroding the judiciary to the point we may as well take away any ammunity that these folks enjoy as it's clear it's being abused.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

LOL,

Your point is fair-enough SELLC. I remember you quite clearly stating that the Jewish community has taken over the judiciary, & like Muslims, when these folks are by themselves, they're found to be OK people, but at the same time, they are really just one part in a collective, that sets their real perspectives. This is when they're very dangerous, & sacrifice all before & for allah, & god.

Just as you find a Freemason building in every half-assed, self respecting township, you will find that the majority of the buildings themselves are owned by Jews, & then rented out to regular folks.

I would not be surprised to find a Jewish led society, that directs / influences the way of the US-of-A. After-all, Israel has the strongest & most modern defense strike forces in the world. How did this come about from a nation so small, & only 72 years in existence ?.... ( I'll give you a hint, the Military Industrial Complex of the US-of-A ). (( Plus Rothschild, the leading world banking family is of Jewish origin)).

If it appears that I'm prejudice to Freemasons, I am not. Their society is too divers & divided up into different groups to speak of wearily, & in a general way. When I use the term Freemason in a wary sense, I refer to the really strange "Scottish Rite", that has nothing at all to do with Scotland, but was born in the US-of-A, & has 33-degrees of initiation. This is the one to be wary of, as each degree up-wards, manifests a very different point-of-view than the predecessor, And these members have effectively been the Presidents of the US-of-A over the years, & have direct blood-lines to the Queen of England...This means that if you ever meet a Freemason, it's quite likely that they're good folks !!! It's the very-upper degree persons, that have a very questionable presence, religious practices & power.

Ciao,

Rastus

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
I don't know what either one of you are talking about... Because apparently while President Trump can nuke any nation at any time, he can't even order an immigration freeze!?
Remember when you would complain about Obama's actions not going far enough, and I had to explain that the president doesn't actually have every lever of power at his disposal? Yeah, this is one of those times.
It's a good thing President Trump controls the nukes given our current liberal judiciary hell bent on obstruction!
The initial ruling was made by a Republican judge in Washington. Then upheld by an appeals panel unanimously that had a George W Bush appointed judge on it.
I myself have had to deal with these liberal judges and I can tell you 100% for a fact that it's a serious problem and not just something President Trump has just made up. The current status quo as it pertains to liberal judges is eroding the judiciary to the point we may as well take away any ammunity that these folks enjoy as it's clear it's being abused.
If that were true he would appeal it again to the Supreme Court which is evenly divided - for now. The president's own lawyers though are instead advising him to start over with a new executive order that could actually be legal this time though. Is this because his own lawyers are too liberal too?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus wrote:
LOL,

Your point is fair-enough SELLC. I remember you quite clearly stating that the Jewish community has taken over the judiciary, & like Muslims, when these folks are by themselves, they're found to be OK people, but at the same time, they are really just one part in a collective, that sets their real perspectives. This is when they're very dangerous, & sacrifice all before & for allah, & god.
I did feel at one time that I was being treated unfairly by certain Jewish folks in both local and Federal Courts. I then come to understand a few things, there are three of everything... You have your radicals, conservatives and your liberals... I am right there in the middle... Somehow they figured out how to get me what I was looking for, but the core issue itself is still not resolved and in a pending state of litigation. I was recently given a mortgage by a company that is owned by a Jew, so I'm questioning my theory that all Jews were out to get me.. Although I will say this, I didn't get jacket around when the time came to disburse the funds like I did with the last place... They paid up in full and it was all there, unlike the other deal where I am still owed $10k and the whole ordeal cost me countless amounts of pain and agony. When you close on a loan, be it a home loan, or an auto loan you would expect the lender to tender in full the proceeds... Apparently by the time my case hit the Federal level they had gotten tired of bailing out banks.. That's all I can figure because I still haven't seen that $10k and I had to close down my location on Lilley Road to prevent from going belly up in 2009 because of that Credit Union!

Just as you find a Freemason building in every half-assed, self respecting township, you will find that the majority of the buildings themselves are owned by Jews, & then rented out to regular folks.
Exactly what are you trying to say Rastus?

I would not be surprised to find a Jewish led society, that directs / influences the way of the US-of-A. After-all, Israel has the strongest & most modern defense strike forces in the world. How did this come about from a nation so small, & only 72 years in existence ?.... ( I'll give you a hint, the Military Industrial Complex of the US-of-A ). (( Plus Rothschild, the leading world banking family is of Jewish origin)).
I am pretty sure all of these technologies are joint developments between the two countries.. Like we could ever trust Iran with that kind of thing?

If it appears that I'm prejudice to Freemasons, I am not. Their society is too divers & divided up into different groups to speak of wearily, & in a general way. When I use the term Freemason in a wary sense, I refer to the really strange "Scottish Rite", that has nothing at all to do with Scotland, but was born in the US-of-A, & has 33-degrees of initiation. This is the one to be wary of, as each degree up-wards, manifests a very different point-of-view than the predecessor, And these members have effectively been the Presidents of the US-of-A over the years, & have direct blood-lines to the Queen of England...This means that if you ever meet a Freemason, it's quite likely that they're good folks !!! It's the very-upper degree persons, that have a very questionable presence, religious practices & power.
I certainly wouldn't start no $hit with someone that had 33 degrees of enlightenment if I were you Rastus... Just a bit of advice for you ole' pal. You should also know that such people certainly don't wear their degrees on their sleeves for all to see... So you could never make a case for the claims you make above, because you simply would just never know.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

PowerStroker wrote:

Remember when you would complain about Obama's actions not going far enough, and I had to explain that the president doesn't actually have every lever of power at his disposal? Yeah, this is one of those times.
In Obama's case it was that he simply wasn't trying hard enough, or purposely sand bagging. This is clearly not one of them times with regards to President Trump, as he was and still is well within his powers to halt any and all immigration, illegal or otherwise, at his sole discretion without interference of the courts. It's so clearly written I would not be surprised if once the court flips, these Judges will have complaints from the Commander In Chief to their perspective Judicial Tenure Commissions... These commissions have the power to unseat a Judge for violations of the Judicial Cannons, much like anyone else could get fired by their boss. It takes a while, but think Trump will be one of them guys to hold a grudge and see to it that complaint has teeth. Do you feel otherwise?

The initial ruling was made by a Republican judge in Washington. Then upheld by an appeals panel unanimously that had a George W Bush appointed judge on it.
Yeah... Seattle, Washington... And we don't necessarily know this Judge is a Republican, just that he was put on the bench by a Republican. Could have been a favor Bush made that come back and bit us in the ass, or the guy could have just been a flip/flopper. Either way, it proves that Democrats have the monopoly when it comes to politically biased Judges on the bench who put party before law. This is in no way a slam on Republicans, if anything it just shows that Republicans pick Judges of higher moral character than Democrats.

If that were true he would appeal it again to the Supreme Court which is evenly divided - for now. The president's own lawyers though are instead advising him to start over with a new executive order that could actually be legal this time though. Is this because his own lawyers are too liberal too?
And look at the politically biased people that Obama nominated to the SCOTUS!? Trump is a smart man, he will work around these people to get what he wants now, all the while covering his ass should anything happen as a result of these lower court Judges trying to usurp the Presidents authority. I am sure they felt all high and mighty at the moment, but I am sure as more time passes it will become obvious these Judges made poor choices that put our security at risk.. If some kind of terrorist attack on American soil happens as a result of people getting in from one of these 7 nations as a result of these Judges actions, it's possible they could face serious reprimand if not brought up on charges. For the sake of my fellow Americans, I hope this does not happen and that Trump finds a quick way to work around them and achieve what he feels is the safest for the American people. I am almost positive Trump will prevail and that complaints are probably already filled out and addressed to the corresponding commissions who oversee these Judges. The law is on Trumps side, it's black and white... It's spelled out so precisely there isn't even any room for debate... Trump is the President, and he has more information as it pertains to national security than any of these Judges.. They are in essence gambling with American security for their own personal gain.

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

SELLC wrote:
Rastus wrote:

Just as you find a Freemason building in every half-assed, self respecting township, you will find that the majority of the buildings themselves are owned by Jews, & then rented out to regular folks.
Q1. Exactly what are you trying to say Rastus?

I would not be surprised to find a Jewish led society, that directs / influences the way of the US-of-A. After-all, Israel has the strongest & most modern defense strike forces in the world. How did this come about from a nation so small, & only 72 years in existence ?.... ( I'll give you a hint, the Military Industrial Complex of the US-of-A ). (( Plus Rothschild, the leading world banking family is of Jewish origin)).
Q2. I am pretty sure all of these technologies are joint developments between the two countries.. Like we could ever trust Iran with that kind of thing?

If it appears that I'm prejudice to Freemasons, I am not. Their society is too divers & divided up into different groups to speak of wearily, & in a general way. When I use the term Freemason in a wary sense, I refer to the really strange "Scottish Rite", that has nothing at all to do with Scotland, but was born in the US-of-A, & has 33-degrees of initiation. This is the one to be wary of, as each degree up-wards, manifests a very different point-of-view than the predecessor, And these members have effectively been the Presidents of the US-of-A over the years, & have direct blood-lines to the Queen of England...This means that if you ever meet a Freemason, it's quite likely that they're good folks !!! It's the very-upper degree persons, that have a very questionable presence, religious practices & power.
Q.3. I certainly wouldn't start no $hit with someone that had 33 degrees of enlightenment if I were you Rastus... Just a bit of advice for you ole' pal. You should also know that such people certainly don't wear their degrees on their sleeves for all to see... So you could never make a case for the claims you make above, because you simply would just never know.

A1. It's likely that Freemasons located, & then built the primary structures in & around the township, & today you'll find that your rent has a good chance of being paid to Jewish owners of these properties.
A2. The reason for all of the wars in the Middle East, has always stemmed from the Jews regretfully. They were Nomads, with no known lands of their own, & have always been persecuted by the seven Arab tribes. However, they were good at money handling, & as such, made great bankers.Over time, their wealth has bought & infiltrated many kingdoms, & yet, they have no known land of their own, except for the UN after WW-II, giving them what's now known as Israel. And to keep this land, an armed force of incredible stature is required, alongside the alliance of the US-of-A....
* The World Bank = Rothchilds = Federal Reserve = Military Industrial Complex = US-of-A taxpayer dollars.
* Rothchilds are traditionally Jewish in origin, (though history may reveal them more cunning & dishonest like the worst parasites).
It seems that you can't trust any of the several Arab tribes, with possible exception of the UAE.

A3. I like your response here SELLC, as this is all I'm trying to "enlighten" folks about, with regards to who actually runs the world, & why things are the way they are. Hence the Illuminati thread !!! The bottom line however, is that these "people" go to a lot of trouble, to paint a picture of the world, & current events, when in reality, a lot of things have been premeditated for a long time. I feel this is wrong, & that if the real truth can't ever be exposed, at least we can look to the people behind the scenes, identify & know that they're real, & very active in determining the current state of the world.
Cheers,
Rastus

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

I can assure you that any member of any secret society will only be human.

If you feel that the Freemasons are anything but humans themselves, then perhaps thats worth looking into because it's news to me. I'd be very interested to learn about these "super human" traits that allow them to predict and control the world. Very interested indeed!

Outside of that, Freemasons are a good bunch of folks who would give you the shirt off their back if they thought you needed it. There is a HUGE amount of good work done by these folks! They donate, they build, they help their community and most importantly they INSPIRE!

I would highly suggest disregarding any negative thing you have ever heard about Freemasonry because as someone who has never lied to you before, you'll just have to trust me on this.

But you feel free to say what you will, just please back some of it up... Because, you know.. Freedom of speech here is sacred, unless your name is Stoma. biggrin

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

National debt hits historic $20 trillion mark

The U.S. national debt reached $20 trillion for the first time ever last Friday after President Trump signed a bipartisan bill temporarily raising the nation's debt limit for three months.

While at Camp David, Mr. Trump, with the stroke of his presidential pen, increased the statutory debt last Friday by approximately $318 billion, according to the Treasury Department. Before the bill's completion, the U.S. debt was sitting around $19.84 trillion.

The legislation allowed the Treasury Department to start borrowing again immediately after several months of using "extraordinary measures" to avoid a financial default. The bill passed last Thursday 80-17 in the Senate and in the House 316-90 on Friday. Around $15 billion in emergency funding for Hurricane Harvey recovery efforts was attached to the borrowing measure.

The $318 billion increase raised the U.S. national debt to $20.16 trillion by Friday. Since Mr. Trump's inauguration, the debt has increased about $215 billion from around $19.94 trillion.

Mr. Trump shocked many Republicans by cutting an unexpected deal with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer last Wednesday, which permitted the three-month debt-ceiling raise in exchange for quick action on Harvey aid and short-term spending.

Republicans, generally, wanted a longer extension for the debt ceiling. But Mr. Trump ultimately had his way, and the negotiations inside the Oval Office outweighed the immediate legislative desires of members of the GOP.

The Treasury Department will be able to continue borrowing until Dec. 8, which is when the bill is due to expire. At that time, Congress will have to face a new call for legislation tackling once again federal spending and the debt ceiling.

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Eh, what was the national debt when Trump inherited it? Something a little north of $19 trillion?

How can you even post that with a straight face PowerStroker?

And YES, I do think Trump will figure out a way to reduce the national debt before he leaves office, in just a little under 7 and 1/2 years from now.

PowerStroker · UNSTOPPABLE!

So I take it you are one of the minions that hasn't burned your "Make America Great Again" hat yet huh?

SELLC · CERTIFIED POST WHORE

Rastus · UNSTOPPABLE!

FOUR !!!!!!!!