Apparently Mr.Trumps visits to his Florida resort have already cost the American taxpayer over $24,000,000:00 ( 24-million dollars ) in just the 10-past-weeks he's been in office...
So what ?......
Well Mr. Obama's bill took over 2-years to reach this amount...In fact Mr.Obama's total per year average over his 8-years in office was only 12.1 million dollars.
This is your chance to speak on how you feel about your current President, potentially wasting your money, instead of making it work toward "making America great" again.
VOTE !!!
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Obama spent over $24 million on a single vacation to Asia when he had tax payers pay to rent out the Taj Mahal for him and a few hundred friends! I think his total was something like $24 million PER DAY!
WTF does an Austrailian care about what a US President spends anyway?
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You all act like you love America when we're weak kissing everyone's ass.. Like the past 8 years under Obama! You lie because you know damn well Obama ran up $24 trillion in debt!
Well the joke was on you my friend! As Japan snuffs you out in a sea of radiation and as bloody war breaks out as we start punishing the nations who had a hand in this, you'll soon learn them 8 years laughing will be followed by 8 years of tears as America cleanses itself.
Sorry mate, maybe you need to go on vacation with Obama at his private island.. oh that's right, your kind isn't welcome there because you were just one of the many fools who let him live high on the hog at your expense. It's all coming into focus now Rastus! You don't like what's looking back at you in the mirror!
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I've never acted like I love America. I just figured that most of the folks there suffered worse than us, enduring even more of the bullshit from the US-of-A government circus than we do here in Oz....( Especially since you fund it with your tax dollars ).
Oh, & if you happened to walk through any streets here in Australia, you'd say we lost the war with so many Asians about the place lol !
It will take millions of years for the US-of-A to cleanse itself from the Fukushima radiation, & the worst is still yet to come, when the buildings finally collapse my friend....It's not too late to immigrate here to Oz, & you can watch the US-of-A die from here if you like.
Here in Oz, we're actually going to get the shit last from Fukushima. That's why I've decided to stay here, but live as far away from Japan as possible.
Looking back in the mirror ?....Hmmm, all I see is a US-of-A government sticking its nose in where its not wanted or needed, in an effort to keep the Military Industrial Complex running full-steam-ahead, generating false-flag-events, & needless war after war. Shit, your officials / elite even killed JFK, your own president, so you could make money out of going to war in Vietnam. And when "you" the people saw this, you protested until your President pulled all of your troops out. And even as the last American was helicoptered out of Ho Chi Min city, Nth Vietnamese tanks were rolling into town.
You will never win these types of wars. But that's not to say you don't make a lot of money. And you wonder why the world hates your government ?....
Why don't you tell us how all of these ( now ongoing ) wars have helped you, your family, your common wealth, your neighbors & neighborhood into becoming better places to live...
Ciao,
Rastus
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Well, let me just say Rastus... The media is FULL OF $HIT!
That crooked Muslim Obama blew WAY MORE money than Trump in his travels flying all over the world kissing a$$ and bowing to everyone while giving them all our money so that they would even have his monkey a$$.
Trump hasn't even left the country once yet! By now Obama had been on multiple vacations overseas! Obama and his family were the biggest waste of American tax payer dollars this nation has ever seen! He squandered more than ALL the prior US Presidents combined! Plus he has been on a non-stop vacation outside of the USA every since he left office, save for a visit to Warren Buffet to beg for money and a trip to Hawaii to ensure a Judge he put on the bench will lit him and his terrorist Muslim buddies in the country!
And this BS you spout about war... Obama kicked in the back door of a nuclear country named Pah-Kee-Stahn to get Osamma yet returned with no body! Clinton the war monger has Kadaffie wracked in Lybia and Obama had mini wars going in Africa! Obama was also at war with Afghanistan thru his entire presidency and his withdrawal from Iraq brought about ISIS!
Wars don't just keep us safe Rastus! They keep all our people round the world safe!
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Actually, um Rex, you are the one basing your conclusions in this matter on fake news. Perhaps some courses in identifying media bias and truth in journalism would be a worthy venture for you?
Sort of like how all the Media was reporting that China and Russian warships were hot in the trail of the USS Carl Vinson?
You know FULL WELL PowerStroker that Obama's overseas vacations... er... I mean trips were all WAY MORE EXPENSIVE than the meager amount spent by Trump thus far!
I am shocked you don't point this out to Rastus who clearly got some bad information to suggest that Obama had only spent $24 million in two years when we all know he was burning thru well over $24 million per day on his Asian vacation!
Trump has for the most part been very thrifty in the cost of his travels! And let's not forget he keep most of his travel right here inside the USA! Obama probably burnt thru $24 million on his fist ever vacation... er... I mean trip to Copenhagen in his failed effort to get the Olympics to be held in that $hit hole they call Chicago.
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Oh, I see PowerStroker... You want to see my source material but you don't ask Rastus for his? Talk about bigoted!
Let's just say this... If you check FactCheck it's basically a mirror of what CNN and NBC says! Which is basically that such expenses can not be disclosed due to security concerns, so no real justifiable proof has been offered to disprove the $200 million per day claim, however if you divide that number by the amount of people who went on the trip it comes out to about $66,000 per person, which is possible! Factoring in just the hotel and lodging cost, it's clear that it cost way more than any of the liberals want to let on... But in factoring in the food, security, transportation, security, and other such cost... It's well over what any reasonable person would consider an acceptable amount by any stretch of the imagination.
It was probably more or less $200 million per day, just as it was reported. Liberals have been trying VERY hard to distract people from the facts of Obama's reckless spending but the fact remains that Obama did spend over $12 TRILLION dollars in 8 years, and that is more than all of the Presidents before him COMBINED!
So PowerStroker, having said that, it's clear Obama wasted tax payer money... Because Obama has always been a waste of tax payer money, even when we paid to send him to Harvard. The $2 billion dollars Obama spent in total on his Asia trip is just a drop in the preverbal bucket compared to the $12+ TRILLION he added to our debt. When you look at the big picture, what was $2 billion dollars of tax payer money to Obama? Nothing! Because he still managed to spend $12 trillion more!
You Democrats have to be the biggest fools on the planet... Everything that is wrong with America today is because of the last 8 years and it's not going to be a big shock when the government has to shut down because of Obama's reckless spending... In fact, I think the real truth about Obama and the Democrats reckless spending will come out soon enough.
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I should also mention that President Trump is donating all of his paychecks... This way when the government does shut down, and all the politicians and recipients of government money are no longer getting pay checks, he can operate just as he did before.. The only difference is, there will be no politicians to stand in his way as all that money is diverted into the war coffers... Yes, it's going to be a blood bath cleaning up all of Obama's red ink... I have been preparing, I hope you have as well.
All of this so that your boy Obama and the Clinton family could live large while you talked ignorant $hit on the internet! Hope it was worth it! It's going to be worth it for me, because as I said... I have been preparing...
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If the US-of-A government shuts down, does that mean the previous president then takes office again until up & running ?
Who will have authority to launch MOAB again & where ?
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I think it's quite obvious Rastus... Did Bush take over for Obama the last time we "shut it down"? No..
What happens is everyone collecting a government pay check is sent home, and whoever is the sitting President runs the show.
Democrats are going to bend over and grab their kankels.. Or else President Trump is going to bend them over... Either way, it's check mate for Democrats or President Trump WILL send them all home.
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Q3. I think about these TRILLIONS of dollars and the impending budget deadline that is a week away and I think it's clear...
Q4. Obama wasted a whole lot of money! Democrats allowed Obama to waste a whole lot of money!
Q5. What do we have to show for this wasted money PowerStroker?
Q6.Anything at all?
Q7. Is infrastructure any better? No it's not!
Q8. Do we have a cure for cancer? No we don't!
Q9. Do we have a safer world? Not even close!
Q10. Are people better off? Not really until the $15 trillion dollar gorilla in the room is under control.
Q11. Are race relations better? No, they are WORSE! And people thought electing a black man would put an end to that! WRONG!
Q12. Are people living longer? No, it's been said people are actually dying sooner than before!
Q13. Is Obama living better? You betcha! He's been on a permanent vacation every since he left office!
Q14. So what do we have to show for this $15 TRILLION dollars PowerStroker!? Please, give me something!
Whoa !!!
So many questions !!! And so much negativity !!! And you say I'm bad LOL !!! I'll answer what I can for you SELLC...
A1. That nickel bought a lot of air-play time from you SELLC.
A2. You want to check out Japans national debt...And then add in the clean-up costs of the on-going Fukushima holocaust...15-Trillion is a small amount when compared.
A3. The budget dead-line is a Republican issue now. "If you can't take the heat, get out-of-the-kitchen"...I'm sure Mr.Trump had this issue well & truly figured out, otherwise, how could he possibly say he is "Going to make America great again" ?...The lack of faith in your new president is disturbing...
A4. Easy come, easy go...The Republican's also allowed the money to be spent.
A5. MOAB for one, the removal of the temporary walls in Chicago, & the digging of the new oil-pipe-line. Oh, & the New World Trade Center building...
A6+7. As an alternative answer, at least the old infrastructure is being repaired / maintained.
A8. There are preventative measures being taken right now, by the UN, to prevent the use of atomic weapons. And good people in Europe are proving & winning in court that Nukes of any kind cause cancer, on a world wide level, & have done since 1945...Westinghouse is filing for bankruptcy too. So if no Nukes are used, or are being built for so-called power generation, your cancer threat is well & truly gone over a period of time. So no, a cure has not been found, but the source of the disease is being killed off.
A9. The people all around the world are able to speak to one-another via the internet. No one wants war as far as I could tell you. Yes, people want a fairer deal with life, meaning equality, but no one wants a war. Our governments make up bollox for us to swallow, to give some meaning to their own meaningless lives, for the sake of their leadership title & government jobs, including the military. They need to stir the shit-pot they created to keep themselves in a job.
A10. Even with all the hype & BS, we are much better off than we think. eg. You have a Corvette, I have a Hayabusa, & PowerStroker a 460 V-8 truck...Oh, the struggle is unbearable...
A11. Nigger or no Nigger, people are either going to get along with each other, or find a reason not too. The trick is to avoid the hype, & just get on with your own life.
A12. Most Western countries are seeing males make it to around 77, & women out to around 80 or so on average. The average male in Russia sees it out at about 59...Likely because of Nukes, & the lack of proper use, storage, & continued monitoring of dump sites after the fuel etc is spent. This leads to contaminated food & water etc etc etc etc etc, so your life-time ( at best ) is reduced.
A13. Do you really care about that ?....
A14. Alternative answer again, but see A5 & 6 for starters.
Ciao,
Rastus
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Q3. I think about these TRILLIONS of dollars and the impending budget deadline that is a week away and I think it's clear...
Q4. Obama wasted a whole lot of money! Democrats allowed Obama to waste a whole lot of money!
Q5. What do we have to show for this wasted money PowerStroker?
Q6.Anything at all?
Q7. Is infrastructure any better? No it's not!
Q8. Do we have a cure for cancer? No we don't!
Q9. Do we have a safer world? Not even close!
Q10. Are people better off? Not really until the $15 trillion dollar gorilla in the room is under control.
Q11. Are race relations better? No, they are WORSE! And people thought electing a black man would put an end to that! WRONG!
Q12. Are people living longer? No, it's been said people are actually dying sooner than before!
Q13. Is Obama living better? You betcha! He's been on a permanent vacation every since he left office!
Q14. So what do we have to show for this $15 TRILLION dollars PowerStroker!? Please, give me something!
Whoa !!!
So many questions !!! And so much negativity !!! And you say I'm bad LOL !!! I'll answer what I can for you SELLC...
A1. That nickel bought a lot of air-play time from you SELLC.
Eh... It was $15 trillion dollars... Not a nickel.. Heck for $15T you could stop a recession and travel the world like a king for 8 years and still have enough left over to insure every man woman and child in the USA for decades! But of course, you can't forget to throw money away on the market! QE123
A2. You want to check out Japans national debt...And then add in the clean-up costs of the on-going Fukushima holocaust...15-Trillion is a small amount when compared.
Yes, you make a very good point Rastus! Japan's debt is WAY OUT OF CONTROL! They should have been bankrupt well before Greece! They can only sustain such a debt because they have the USA protecting them! So how do you collect? Makes for a sticky situation but them Japanese have always been twisted... I am making a thread about Japan that should be out any day now.
A3. The budget dead-line is a Republican issue now. "If you can't take the heat, get out-of-the-kitchen"...I'm sure Mr.Trump had this issue well & truly figured out, otherwise, how could he possibly say he is "Going to make America great again" ?...The lack of faith in your new president is disturbing...
I say if congress gives President Trump any $hit on the budget he should just shut down the government and run the show himself for the next 4 years! Who cares if he doesn't get re-elected! At least at the end of his 4 year rule the country would be back on solid footing and only people who care about America in the country!
A4. Easy come, easy go...The Republican's also allowed the money to be spent.
WRONG! Obamacare was passed without a single Republican vote! All of Obamas wars - Libya, Africa, Pah-Kee-Stahn and such were not authorized by congress. The billions paid to Iran were done so without congressional approval! And let us not forget that Obama was ALWAYS late submitting his budgets and for 6 years NONE of them were ever approved by congress! SIX YEARS!
A5. MOAB for one, the removal of the temporary walls in Chicago, & the digging of the new oil-pipe-line. Oh, & the New World Trade Center building...
Small... Very small in comparison to the $15 Trillion... But the New World Trade Center was planned and started under Bush. The temporary walls in Chicago were just the ones surrounding Obama's home! And the pipeline! HAHAHAHAHA! That wasn't even approved until Trump got in there! Surely you Jest!
A6+7. As an alternative answer, at least the old infrastructure is being repaired / maintained.
You think so? Sounds like BS to me! You ever been in the inner cities of Detroit? How about to the other side of the wall in DC? Where was all this money when Detroit went belly up?
A8. There are preventative measures being taken right now, by the UN, to prevent the use of atomic weapons. And good people in Europe are proving & winning in court that Nukes of any kind cause cancer, on a world wide level, & have done since 1945...Westinghouse is filing for bankruptcy too. So if no Nukes are used, or are being built for so-called power generation, your cancer threat is well & truly gone over a period of time. So no, a cure has not been found, but the source of the disease is being killed off.
The UN will fall the first minutes of WWIII. Think "Paper Tiger"! Do the UN have an Army big enough to invade the USA, Russia, China and India? Didn't think so.
A9. The people all around the world are able to speak to one-another via the internet. No one wants war as far as I could tell you. Yes, people want a fairer deal with life, meaning equality, but no one wants a war. Our governments make up bollox for us to swallow, to give some meaning to their own meaningless lives, for the sake of their leadership title & government jobs, including the military. They need to stir the shit-pot they created to keep themselves in a job.
This was all going on WELL before Obama! Think dial-up and BBS systems... In fact I would say that in some ways it was more free back then than what it has become!
A10. Even with all the hype & BS, we are much better off than we think. eg. You have a Corvette, I have a Hayabusa, & PowerStroker a 460 V-8 truck...Oh, the struggle is unbearable...
I have a Corvette because Obama's policy ran housing prices into the ground and I made a good private investment! You have a Hayabusa because you saved money and purchased it and PowerStroker has a 460 Ford because he is a mechanic. How else could anyone own a Ford out of warranty!? LOL, my point is we have these things because of US! Not because of that b1tch Obama! Obama was always real big on taking credit for everything! Even claimed to businesses and the world that "You didn't build that"! The b1tch has lived off the government teat his entire life, and done very little for others outside of his friends and family. Even in his most recent month long vacation on a private island you could see him taking photos of himself and his wife on someone else's boat! Someone else's Island! Someone else's parasailing equipment. He is living in DC in someone else's home. His Chicago home, which he hardly every visited while President was financed with Fannie May money for an amount exceeding the limits according to an article I read. No Rastus, the world is not better off because of Obama. I once was going to write a review about his presidency and say that at least he didn't start WWIII, but the more I look at things the more I think he set us all up for WWIII
A11. Nigger or no Nigger, people are either going to get along with each other, or find a reason not too. The trick is to avoid the hype, & just get on with your own life.
Sure! Just allow all Americans to balance their budget just like the Government! You know... Where you can keep borrowing regardless how much debt you have.
A12. Most Western countries are seeing males make it to around 77, & women out to around 80 or so on average. The average male in Russia sees it out at about 59...Likely because of Nukes, & the lack of proper use, storage, & continued monitoring of dump sites after the fuel etc is spent. This leads to contaminated food & water etc etc etc etc etc, so your life-time ( at best ) is reduced.
Well if that be the case Obama has wasted a lot of people precious time!
A13. Do you really care about that ?....
You're damn right I do! He was on vacation for 8 years! Now we have to pay for his vacation the rest of his life for what amounts to a poor job!? In the real world his a$$ would have been fired LONG AGO! All of his legacy has been un-done... His signature healthcare law is bankrupt and on the path to ruin despite countless trillions in time and money wasted on an effort that didn't even have bi-partisan support! You're damn right I care about that Rastus!
A14. Alternative answer again, but see A5 & 6 for starters.
Got lazy towards the end there eh? Ah well, you did a good job up until 13 anyway! LOL!
Ciao,
Rastus
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Yes I did get a little lazy, as I had no answer, but felt I was lucky that the question was directed at PowerStroker, so better to let him answer some too...
Ciao,
Rastus
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President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago trips have cost the U.S taxpayers around $24 million already - that is almost as much Obama spent on his travels in his first two years as president. Obama spent an average of $12.1 million in travels per year - Trump is near to the annual target in just one month as he spent at least $10 million in three golf vacations only out of the total of seven trips to his resort. Trump has not yet traveled abroad.
According to CNN, earlier this month Trump has been at his Mar-a-Lago resort, Florida, for a total of 21 days till now during his 80 days of presidency, which could have cost an estimated $21.6 million.
Trump might be on track to spend more taxpayer money on travel during his first year of presidency than former President Barack Obama spent during his eight years in office.
President Donald Trump, in his 2018 budget plan, proposed to cut down on some social programs as well as research projects and allocate those funds for homeland security and defense. But spending more than $12 million for seven trips to Mar-a-Lago in Florida appears to contradict his budget proposal.
Each of his trips was estimated to cost $3 million. He could have funded the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness for four years, which is budgeted at $4 million in 2016, if he had not gone vacationing so frequently.
In comparison, a December 2016 Government Accountability Office report reviewed by Judicial Watch found that Obama took a similar four-day trip to Florida in 2013 and his trip cost was $3.6 million.
During his two terms of presidency, Obama spent nearly $97 million on travel, according to documents reviewed by Judicial Watch. The travel costs included both official and family trips.
According to the Judicial Watch review, the documents contain information regarding one of Obamas political fund raising trips to San Diego, Earth Day trip to the Florida Everglades, the first ladys trip to Morocco, her annual Aspen ski trip, a family vacation in Marthas Vineyard, as well as Hillary Clintons ride with Obama on Air Force One to North Carolina.
There have been many controversies and comparisons of Trump and his predecessors travel plans in these few months but these are not the only two presidents who have spent enormous amounts on travel. Even though the exact amount of the travel expenditure of a president is not made public, we can obviously have an idea of the actual figure if we consider foreign trips and the flying costs.
The last time the presidents travel expenditure was scrutinized was back in 1999 when President Clintons 1998 visit to Africa, Chile, and China was brought under the scope by the Government Accountability Office and a follow up to the report was undertaken in 2000, analyzing the air lift costs. Each of the Presidential trips need an all inclusive security setup security personnel take advance trips to the destination, logistics, supplies flown in by multiple cargo carriers and flying in cabinet members, staff and even the preferred chef.
The easily ascertainable costs are the operational costs of the Air Force One. The costs per flight hour for AF1 have dipped to $140,000, according to Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch. In 2013, the AF1 cost $288,288 per flight hour which came down to $206,337 in 2015.
The Air Force reported $180,118 as the cost per flight hour for the AF1 in FY 2016. The report came in response to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by Judicial Watch.
Obama took 52 trips abroad: two less than President Bill Clintons total but four more than President George W. Bush. Ronald Reagan, another illustrious name in the countrys list of presidents, took 25 trips throughout his presidency. But what stood out in his term was how the presidential travels changed. The Boeing 707 was replaced by Boeing VC-25 after he had commissioned them for two special missions. The Air Force One now had in-flight bedrooms, showers and boardrooms.
Even though we cannot know the exact amount the presidents spend on their travels we know that their travel budgets could fund many low cost schemes that have been scrapped in recent years. But many, who are in support of the travel budget assigned, argue that the expenditure is necessary to an extent pertaining to the power the post comes with and the security needed to protect the president of the United States of America.
ALL THIS IS THE FIRST 100 DAYS! Trump has traveled INSIDE the USA exclusively!
You two can take your BS propaganda articles and stuff them up whoever's lying a$$ fabricated them! The fact that you even posted them without doing research first show's you two are just as bad as the hacks who authored the stories!
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