Well it would seem that Facebook and a few other big name social media sites are banning Alex Jones and his "info-wars" web sites.
I personally never really gave into his web site, or the CD's they used to distribute. They even put their stickers all over stop signs in the neighborhood back in infowars infancy years.
I did however check out a few of his weekly episodes on Netflix and while some of it can be over the top, I found his Netflix documentaries to be at least entertaining.
Of course not all the conspiracies are credible and I am sure such speculation is a hard business to run, but I think banning them is a little outrageous because they are only airing their brand of entertainment. Sure, sometimes they can really go overboard on an issue - and it would seem their insistence that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a "false flag" was the red line for many of the social media platforms, especially since the victims of the school shootings have lawyered up. It would be good reporting for the media to follow that trial so people really can be afforded the truth, but banning this company that has had programing on Netflix seems a bit over the top... If it comes to pass that Infowars is proven wrong in a court of law and has to close up shop due to lawsuits, that's one thing... But this arbitrary banning amounts to censorship! I feel for the families of the school shooting and I hope they win their arguments in court, but censoring is not the proper course of action. I'd expect removal of every tabloid from the checkout lane and a ban on the industry if this was what people considered fair.
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I actually quite like his documentaries, & have recently viewed a couple from around 10-years-or-so ago, & quite honestly, a LOT or the stuff in these films have become quite true, especially down this way in Oz...
"Only an alert & knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial & military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods & goals, so that security & liberty may prosper together". Dwight D.Eisenhower.
There was this guy on DH, Louie, who was a HUGE Alex Jones / infowars fan... I bet he is devastated and lighting up a web forum somewhere on the internet.
I'll never forget the time he was warning the end of the world was coming on such and such date (can't recall)... Anyway the day came and went yet here we are! LOL, it was good times - entertainment both before, during and after!
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Just seen on a feed that Apple has now pulled Alex Jones and infowars podcast!
Perhaps the lawyers for the Sandy Hook victims have expanded their scope to include all content providers?
It should be interesting as I am sure that Alex Jones and infowars isn't going to take it laying down, unless of course they have to reveal they are a tabloid and or whatever.
One thing is for sure, the gauntlet has been thrown down.
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Private social media companies are allowed to have standards aren't they?
I would agree that he has a 1st amendment right to say anything he wants, but the Constitution protects people from the government, and private companies have a great deal of say in what they allow. It's no different from a baker refusing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple if you think about it.
I didn't know anything about Alex Jones until the story broke, but now I know where a lot of people have been getting their alternate realities.
I heard he thinks the government controls the weather, and that's only one of his milder ideas. What he said about sandy hook, 911, and so many others was simply too much for some of these social media companies. In this case, I applaud them for having some basic human decency and standards.
1.I didn't know anything about Alex Jones until the story broke, but now I know where a lot of people have been getting their alternate realities.
2.I heard he thinks the government controls the weather, and that's only one of his milder ideas.
3.What he said about sandy hook, 911, and so many others was simply too much for some of these social media companies.
4.In this case, I applaud them for having some basic human decency and standards.
G'day mate,
I felt that I had to respond to your posts here, so here goes....
R1. Don't be too quick to criticize the man IMO. I don't follow his web-site or anything, but I have viewed quite a few of his documentaries, & found them informative, interesting, & backed-up by a great many respected people, from scientists, university people & a great many hard working professionals etc etc. You would do well to view some documentaries, not so much for an alternate perspective on reality ( lol ), but for the research & facts presented. Seriously interesting stuff IMO, that will help form your own views on things.
R2. Check out "H.A.R.P." on wiki etc etc. Things like "cloud seeding" have been going-on for decades, so I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he's dug-stuff-up on more recent issues.
R3. I don't know about his comments on Sandy Hook, but he's one-of-many brave folks to open the can-of-worms about 9/11, & the dark possibilities of the US-of-A gov't, & the U.K, plus the New World Order actions & concepts, that today, most of which are realities...
R4. I agree that his "In your face" tactics can be extreme, especially if you're on the receiving end of them, but I genuinely feel that he only wants the truth of matters revealed, so that everyone can gain a wider perspective on things.
Sometimes historical facts can paint an ugly picture on people, countries, & families alive today, that he likes to portray in his films in a dark light, but that's only to grab your attention, so that you may take some action or thought about some stories. I think that's OK to do myself, as long as the folks being attacked are prepared, & actually accountable for their "sins".
The Bilderberg Group of people would still be secretly conducting their illegal activities, if it wasn't for folks like Alex bringing their existence & monopolies into our plane sight.
Don't discredit the man too much before taking the time to survey all of his work is all I'm suggesting. He calls an Ace an Ace, & a Spade a Spade, so he's OK in my books, as he appears to genuinely throw straight-dice. And we are all human, & make mistakes sometimes.
Cheers,
Rastus
-- Edited by Rastus on Wednesday 8th of August 2018 07:04:58 AM
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Counter punch has sent me some interesting perspectives about Alex'x recent Censoring from a number of "ethernet sites", & have this for us to consider....
qt." It appears that "these Corporations" appointed themselves as arbiters of accepted political thought, & censored Mr.Jones for failing to comply with arbitrary political standards set in "Silicone Valley" boardrooms, & NOT the ballot-box "....
The First Amendment to US-of-A Constitution states, that Congress shall make NO LAW, "abridging the freedom of speech, or the press"...
It looks like the Gov't's great censorship purge has gained some more momentum...
I guess the real question is whether the free world will take it or not ?...
More scary shit to come, as Big Brother is watching you !....
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"We will never back down to the satanic pedophile globalist new world order and their walking-dead reanimated corpse Joe Biden. And we will never recognize him"
Ok, by now you have to realize that Alex Jones is nothing but a far right wing hack who lives in a false reality, and spends the entirety of his time trying to suck gullible people in to his false reality. It's one thing to believe that conspiracy theories may be possible if you believe theories from both sides of the political spectrum... But if all of your theories are on the far right wing extreme, generally it means you have absolutely no credibility, and aren't worth listening to.
Companies are right to censor that crap from their platforms. Sure he has the right to free speech, but they have the right to not provide him an audience.
-- Edited by PowerStroker on Monday 14th of December 2020 12:01:31 AM
People don't have to follow Alex Jones, they can even block him if they really don't want to see his brand!
This is the problem!
Liberal media is famous for this and the way I deal with it is I just don't visit CNN, MSNBC or any of the other networks that can't report anything but left wing liberal lies and distractions! What if your same method was used on these big networks? What if CNN and MSNBC was just outight banned or taken off the air because a group of people feel they are unhinged? And they are you know! Liberal networks are just as unhined as Alex Jones!
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These "liberal" news networks of which you speak have full time reporters on staff with college degrees in journalism. Also, they don't publish anything unless they have multiple independent source confirmation of it's truth.
That is what journalism is supposed to be. If Alex Jones can prove to Twitter and Facebook his multiple independent source confirmation of the truth of his theories, then and only then should they be compelled to publish it. If not, then they are rightly saving ignorant Americans from unfounded conspiracy theories that they might mistakenly consume as news.
A journalist is someone who investigates to find the truth regardless of whether that truth jives with their personal political views. Alex Jones does not fit this definition.
-- Edited by PowerStroker on Monday 14th of December 2020 09:18:20 PM
The media took the Steele dossier hook, line and sinker.
Also find it very funny that every Democrat who gets accused of sexual harassment gets a pass from the media. Cuomo comes to mind.
Fact is, you're just as full of it as these liberal newsdesks you try and defend, and the fact you can't see it on either account is why it's so funny.
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My understanding is that some of the stuff in the Steele dossier was confirmed, and none of it has yet been disproven. But you are correct in that only the parts that have been proven should be published as news. The existence of other parts of it that have not been proven ie: golden showers etc - should generally be left out. At least until such time as the prostitutes involved actually come forward on the record.