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LOL !

The funny-thing is, without Mr.Trump, the Republican's don't have anyone either...

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The funny-thing is, without Mr.Trump, the Republican's don't have anyone either...


 

The republican's do not need anyone...

 

Trump is the incumbent....

 

ALL the battle ground states from 2016 are doing exceptionally well in Trumps first term...

 

Democrats have embraced several extreme positions that will kill them with the centrist vote...

 

 



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Keeping asylum seekers and their children in cages seems pretty extreme, how do the centrists feel about that?

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Then where do you suggest we keep them? They say a vast majority of them don't even qualify for asylum! These people are actually being coached at the border about exactly what to say because looking for a better life and hand outs is not a qualifier for asylum. 

Why don't these millions of people join together and fix their problems at home!? 



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Keeping asylum seekers and their children in cages seems pretty extreme, how do the centrists feel about that?


 

Same way they felt when it took place under Obama....

 

So extreme we have been doing it for well over a decade...

 

You continue to believe the left wing that this is something NEW it has been like this since before Obama was even president...

 

Obama  put people in chain link facilities also...there is full video of it...

 

Your term CAGES for extra drama is just stupid...

 

And they are being allowed to re-enter Mexico...

 

What they are not allowed now or in the future is to simply walk straight in...






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Keeping asylum seekers and their children in cages seems pretty extreme, how do the centrists feel about that?


 Obama admin built the cages for that reason.



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Under Obama, families were only separated if they believed the child was in danger, under Trump it is standard practice. There is even an interview somewhere showing John Kelly admitting it was his idea, and done for the soul purpose of inflicting as much pain as possible so word would get back to Central America how bad it will be if they cross our border. (So much for compassionate Christian conservatism.)

Yet they come anyway because a couple bologna sandwiches per day is better than nothing now that they can't grow anything anymore.

It used to be that when someone requested asylum at the border, they were given a hearing date and then released in to the country, and a VERY high percentage of them showed up for their hearings. Now we keep them in cages for $700 each per day, that the taxpayers spend on for profit detainment centers - just like the ones John Kelly is now on the board of.

And before you call bullshit

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/despite-trump-administration-narrative-most-migrants-show-up-to-court-hearings-11201012



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It used to be that when someone requested asylum at the border, they were given a hearing date and then released in to the country.


 

Well for once, thank gawd things aren't like it used to be!



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Under Obama, families were only separated if they believed the child was in danger, under Trump it is standard practice. There is even an interview somewhere showing John Kelly admitting it was his idea, and done for the soul purpose of inflicting as much pain as possible so word would get back to Central America how bad it will be if they cross our border. (So much for compassionate Christian conservatism.)

Yet they come anyway because a couple bologna sandwiches per day is better than nothing now that they can't grow anything anymore.

It used to be that when someone requested asylum at the border, they were given a hearing date and then released in to the country, and a VERY high percentage of them showed up for their hearings. Now we keep them in cages for $700 each per day, that the taxpayers spend on for profit detainment centers - just like the ones John Kelly is now on the board of.

And before you call bullshit

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/despite-trump-administration-narrative-most-migrants-show-up-to-court-hearings-11201012


 

 

 

He put them in CAGES when they were separated...

 

The very thing the left CLAIMS is so wrong today...

 

When a small family showed up seeking asylum that is what happens...

 

it is not handled the same way when 100K show up at same time....any one with a brain understands this...

 

Those for profit detention centers were constructed when Obama was president...they are not new center from 2016...

 

No matter how hard you try to spin it....Obama was doing the same things....only it was fine with democrats at the time...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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For the record...The United States takes in over 1 million LEGAL immigrants annually...

 

The United States is not the care taker of the rest of the planet....

 

Democrats want to believe the US OWES these people something...

 

WE DO NOT...

 

 

 



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Then we should stop keeping them in prison for $700 per day, and release them to make it on their own agree?

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Then we should stop keeping them in prison for $700 per day, and release them to make it on their own agree?


 

No I do not agree...

 

We do not know who these people are....what types of diseases they might carry...

 

They can be released back into Mexico, not inside the United States.

 

Too many of these children are not with parents they have been stolen and are being used to gain entry to the United States due to liberal policies...

 

but leftist do not care about that part of the equation...

 

A few months ago the same leftist claimed there was no crisis....then it became a manufactured crisis....now the narrative is they are here due to climate change....

 

do you not see how your sides narrative continues to change to serve an agenda????

 

if you do not see it you are willingly BLIND for the sake of party loyalty...

 



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When we have gotten rid of poverty in America....then we can open the dialog about allowing central american convoys to flood our southern borders.

 

We have American citizens who have worked hard their whole life not getting by....we have homeless people, veterans even...

 

We have current citizens still living off food stamps...

 

Whether the left wing likes it or not Americans come first....

 

Keep in mind that is was democrats who created a law that taxed citizens that did not obtain private insurance...same democrats now vow to provide undocumented aliens with free healthcare....

 

why would democrats be okay with taxing Americans yet also be willing to give the very benefit away at the expense of tax payers...

 



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PowerStroker wrote:

Under Obama, families were only separated if they believed the child was in danger, under Trump it is standard practice. There is even an interview somewhere showing John Kelly admitting it was his idea, and done for the soul purpose of inflicting as much pain as possible so word would get back to Central America how bad it will be if they cross our border. (So much for compassionate Christian conservatism.)

Yet they come anyway because a couple bologna sandwiches per day is better than nothing now that they can't grow anything anymore.

It used to be that when someone requested asylum at the border, they were given a hearing date and then released in to the country, and a VERY high percentage of them showed up for their hearings. Now we keep them in cages for $700 each per day, that the taxpayers spend on for profit detainment centers - just like the ones John Kelly is now on the board of.

And before you call bullshit

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/despite-trump-administration-narrative-most-migrants-show-up-to-court-hearings-11201012

 

 

https://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2018/nov/13/rob-wittman/rep-rob-wittman-says-85-percent-immigrants-skip-th/


 



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Snopes Admits Obama Built Cages for Immigrant Children

Two female detainees sleep in a holding cell, as the children are separated by age group and gender, as hundreds of mostly Central American immigrant children are being processed and held at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Nogales Placement Center in Nogales, Ariz. June 18, 2014 file photo, (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin, Pool, File)

The left-wing bias of popular fact-checking sites like Snopes or Politfact has been well documented for years. So when Snopes took on the task of fact-checking the claim The Obama administration, not the Trump administration, built the cages that hold many immigrant children at the U.S.-Mexico border, I expected them to, at the very least, rate it as Half-True or False and come up with some longwinded explanation with some absurd standard for why the Obama administration was in the clear. Last year, FactCheck.org couldn't bring itself to admit that family separations happened under Obama, even though their research proved it did.  But alas, Snopes couldnt find a way to clear the Obama administration on this one, and had no choice but to rate the claim as true.

 

But then Trump stated, Obama built the cages. I didnt build them. Obama built them.

 

That portion of Trumps commentary is true. Images of children behind chain-link fencing were widely seen at a site in McAllen, Texas, that had been converted from a warehouse to an immigrant-detention facility in 2014. Social media users who defended Trumps immigration policies also shared a 2014 image of Obamas Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson touring a facility in Nogales, Arizona, in 2014, in which the fencing could be seen surrounding migrants there, too. That image was taken during a spike in the number of unaccompanied children fleeing violence in Central American countries.

 

Of course when you have two former Obama administration officials (Obamas DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson, and executive associate director of ICE  Thomas Homan) both on the record on the issue, in addition to media reporting at the timeits really hard to claim anything to the contrary.

 

Last year, Snopes also had to admit that the Obama administration placed immigrant children with human traffickers. Im sure that wasnt an easy admission for them either, especially since concerns about human trafficking are why children are separated from adults in the first place.

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President Trump speak about American Exceptionalism

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And once again, they were wrong.

 

 

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Whos Responsible for Separating Alien Kids From Their Parents? Many People, but Not Trump

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There is a lot of blame to share. President Bill Clinton, the aliens themselves, the courts and immigration policies foolishly created by the Obama administration. The point of their propaganda war is to force the Trump administration to terminate its zero-tolerance policy of prosecuting all adult aliens for illegal entry. It is regrettable children are separated from their parents. But people who cross the border illegally have committed a crime, and this is a consequence.

who truly is responsible for the 2,000 alien kids who, according to the Associated Press, recently have been separated from their detained illegal alien parents?

There is a lot of blame to share. That includes President Bill Clinton and the alien parents themselves, as well as the courts and immigration policies foolishly created by the Obama administration. The perverse incentives in those policies have endangered the lives and safety of children and helped fund the deadly Mexican drug cartels that run the trafficking networks on our southern border.

You would not know that based on the absurdly biased coverage and virulent protests that have occurred. The Trump administration is simply doing what it is constitutionally charged with doingenforcing the law.

read more.........  https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/whos-responsible-separating-alien-kids-their-parents-many-people-not-trump?fbclid=IwAR2eJyLbOMbpoNqDI7P_j_rNqlmcZoQSZeLd3uifC_hSsaBQnyPDdB9DGkM



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The thing that bothers me most about watching all these Democrats this how much hate they spew.
How on earth do all Democrats right running for Prez have so much hate in their hearts... ?!?
I mean, each and every one of them seem to hate life itself.

Theyre all too miserable to even watch. Its depressing, for sure.

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The thing that bothers me most about watching all these Democrats this how much hate they spew.
How on earth do all Democrats right running for Prez have so much hate in their hearts... ?!?
I mean, each and every one of them seem to hate life itself.

They're all too miserable to even watch. Its depressing, for sure.


 

I'm sure that the late, great, & dearly missed Mr.Nixon would have a similar point-of-view, about both sides ! ( I would have resigned too ).



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Here ya'll go !

This is a most excellent article IMO, so take the time to read...

www.counterpunch.org/2019/07/12/strategic-extremism-how-republicans-and-establishment-democrats-use-identity-politics-to-divide-and-rule/

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Great article here, check-it-out !


www.counterpunch.org/2019/07/19/system-capture-2020-the-role-of-the-upper-class-in-shaping-democratic-primary-politics/

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Great article here, check-it-out !


www.counterpunch.org/2019/07/19/system-capture-2020-the-role-of-the-upper-class-in-shaping-democratic-primary-politics/


 Biden is the only neoliberal in the bunch the rest have bought into the full blown leftist ideology...

 

and trying to rename socialism to progressive liberals is more than dishonest...it is a bold face lie...

 

It immediately lost me when it called Beto O'Rouke to the right of the rest of the crowd....lmao



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Liberalism is a mental disorder. What more proof do you need?

 
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destroyed," but this is somehow not promoting violence...

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The roughly two dozen Democrats currently running for President are of one mind when it comes to the issue of gun control:  they want a lot more. Gun licensing, gun bans, universal background checks, ammunition background checks, and red flag laws are just a few of the proposals weve seen from the likes of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, and Cory Booker, and theres more to come as the candidates try to outdo one another in their anti-gun proposals to try and capture the votes of the Democrat base.

Cornell Professor Glenn Altschuler has some advice on what Democrats should say about guns at The Hill, and sadly, he doesnt recommend stop talking. Instead, he recommends lying to the American people.

First, he says Democrats should tell voters that the United States is the world capitol of firearm homicides, suicides, and mass shootings. As it turns out, hes 1/3rd right (which is also 2/3rds wrong). The U.S. isnt the world capitol of firearm homicides. In fact, the U.S. doesnt even have the highest firearm homicide rate in North America. That distinction belongs to Mexico. Other countries in the Western hemisphere with higher firearm homicide rates than the U.S. include Brazil, Jamaica, El Salvador, Honduras, Venezuela, and Belize. When it comes to mass shootings around the globe, the U.S. isnt even in the Top 10, according to researcher John Lott.

Unfortunately, the United States does have the highest firearm-related suicide rate. Thats not the same as having the highest suicide rate overall, however. According to the World Health Organization, in 2016 the United States had the 34th highest suicide rate in the world. In recent years non-gun related suicides have been increasing even faster than gun-related suicides in the U.S., which suggests that Professor Altschuler is more interested in an anti-gun talking point than actually addressing why more Americans are taking their own lives, regardless of the means.



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Who is going to do all these background checks on AMMO BUYS. Been a FFL firearms dealer much my life. The background system NICS is down half the time because they can't even handle the firearms background checks.

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Chuck Schumer has been in office for 38 years

Nancy Pelosi has been in office for 32 years

Maxine Waters has been in office for 28 years

Joe Biden was in office for 44 years

Yet they blame all of America's problems on Donald Trump, who hasn't even been in office 3 years?



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How the Liberals Are Destroying the Foundation of America, Part 3

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They blame all of America's problems on Donald Trump, who hasn't even been in office 3 years?


 

That's the way things go mate. Everyone was blaming Mr.Obama for the US-of-A's problems when he was in power...And he was voted-in twice !



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That's true, but in Obama's case he really did spend more than all the Presidents before him combined... 

So in his case, he really run up the debt and what do we have to show for that today?

Too many give aways under Obama, in fact his entire tenure all you heard about his giveaways to other countries be it Iran, India, Japan, China and Africa...



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^^^ That's only partially true. A lot of the enormous costs from his predecessor's wars came due under Obama's tenure. Also, we needed a massive stimulus to dig us out of the hole caused by his predecessor deregulating the mortgage and subprime industries. I'd be interested to know what the real numbers are on actual Obama spending once that is factored in. Such curiosity is often lost on this crowd though, so I'm not holding my breath waiting for the answer.

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I'm not buying that line PowerStroker because in all honesty the amount of national debt that exist when a President enters office and leaves office with is directly tied to that President.

This idea that Bush could have left Obama with any debt that Obama didn't want is ludicrous because the sitting President could always reverse course on it! 

Obamacares legacy cost were much an example of him trying to leave Trump with the bill however Trump has decided to end all of that.

That being said, by any metric out there - Obama spent like a drunken sailor and when you look at that number it's greater than all before him combined. 

Obama drove the nation in the debt ditch. 



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Well...

This is apparently the best way to see the acquired debt differences of each POTUS...

www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296



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I'm not buying that line PowerStroker because in all honesty the amount of national debt that exist when a President enters office and leaves office with is directly tied to that President.

Not really, all spending is authorized by Congress, and frequently a policy change enacted by congress can have an effect that lasts years or decades. I would Imagine The Iraq war costs aren't something Obama wanted on his tab, but he sure got it, because that spending was authorized and signed in to law before he ever took the oath.

This idea that Bush could have left Obama with any debt that Obama didn't want is ludicrous because the sitting President could always reverse course on it! 

How do you reverse course on a full on foreign war without spending another dime? Even to do so irresponsibly takes months and many billions of dollars just to end the war and bring our people/equipment home, and replenish what has been lost or damaged. 

Obamacares legacy cost were much an example of him trying to leave Trump with the bill however Trump has decided to end all of that.

One of the main objectives of Obamacare was to bend the curve of long term healthcare costs toward sustainability, while there was an initial outlay of cash, it has been achieving its goal.

That being said, by any metric out there - Obama spent like a drunken sailor and when you look at that number it's greater than all before him combined. 

Congress did all off the spending, Obama just signed off on the spending that occurred while he was in office, and many of the costs that happened while he was in office were actually signed off by his predecessor.

Obama drove the nation in the debt ditch. 

You do know that all of Bush's wars were financed by debt right? Not a single revenue stream or tax increase was created to fund them. And when Bush was handed a SURPLUS at the end of the Clinton administration, he went to Congress and asked for a refund - which he got in the form of a tax cut. A tax cut which by itself more than wiped out the surplus, and that was before he even thought about military spending. If you were truly trying to seek truth, you would have to acknowledge such. I believe you would be more satisfied in life, if you sought truth. There are plenty of things that are truthfully wrong with Democrats, but to blame the debt on Obama is disingenuous. 


 



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Obamacare did one thing...

 

RECORD PROFITS for insurance companies...

 

THAT IS IT....PERIOD....



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preexisting conditions


 

 

That is not really true...

 

The only exception to the pre-existing coverage rule is for grandfathered individual health insurance plans -- the kind you buy yourself, not through an employer. They dont have to cover pre-existing conditions.

Try getting pregnant without insurance then go buy insurance after you are pregnant...They do not have to cover the pregnancy...

Not everything was as advertised under pre-existing condition...

 



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I'm sure Republicans are going to jump on fixing that right?

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I'm sure Republicans are going to jump on fixing that right?


 

Doubt it...as a rule republicans want to keep government out of such issues....

 

By the way if you do not have insurance today and you are diagnosed with Cancer next month prior to signing up for healthcare insurance  they will not cover the cost of your cancer treatment...

 

There are a ton of loop holes built into the ACA that the public was never told about to protect the insurance industry...

 

 

 

 

 



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