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Finally some bipartisanship on Capital Hill !!!


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/here-are-the-4-republicans-who-voted-to-condemn-trumps-racist-tweets/ar-AAEqrHy?li=BBnb7Kz



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Thanks for letting me know NOT to vote for Fred Upton in any Michigan primary! 

I feel what Trump did in calling out this Squad of unpatriotic race baters took a lot of courage! 

He was absolutely correct in his assessment of these people, and 2020 is a MAJOR election where ALL of these people face re-election bids!

So we will see come November of 2020 who is most popular but I can assure you I have seen NOTHING appealing about any of these people, AOC, Omar, Talib and that other dreadlocked chick!

Trump would do America right by smacking down these anti-American trouble makers every time they get out of line! It's clear the Democrats are incapable of keeping their kids in line, and if it hurts you guys maybe do your jobs? Sorry!



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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/here-are-the-4-republicans-who-voted-to-condemn-trumps-racist-tweets/ar-AAEqrHy?li=BBnb7Kz


 

MORE LIES...

 

The EXACT statement made by Trump....

 

"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done."

 

Trump did not mention Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez....but according to the left wing media that was who Trump was referring to...

 

And they will call him a liar when he points it out...THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO HE WAS REFERRING TO...

 

Only they don't....but they will use the narrative to paint this as a racial issue...

 

It is the DEMOCRAT strategy AGAIN to make every issue a racial issue...

 

 

 



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What is really SAD...

 

Democrats have control of Congress...

 

And they are more interested in the 2020 election than actually doing anything useful in Congress...

 

They could work on fixing the laws they are supposedly so offended by...but they won't because in truth they are not offended by it...they are only using it to try and garner votes from the really stupid morons that represent the left wing...

 

what is really great....is it turns off people in the middle...and it is the people in the middle that will vote for Trump again in 2020...

 

 

We already know the crazies within the right wing will vote for Trump what will win or lose 2020 is the votes in the middle and the extreme positions that the left have adopted will kill them with the voters in the middle...



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Thanks for letting me know NOT to vote for Fred Upton in any Michigan primary! 

I feel what Trump did in calling out this Squad of unpatriotic race baters took a lot of courage! 

He was absolutely correct in his assessment of these people, and 2020 is a MAJOR election where ALL of these people face re-election bids!

So we will see come November of 2020 who is most popular but I can assure you I have seen NOTHING appealing about any of these people, AOC, Omar, Talib and that other dreadlocked chick!

Trump would do America right by smacking down these anti-American trouble makers every time they get out of line! It's clear the Democrats are incapable of keeping their kids in line, and if it hurts you guys maybe do your jobs? Sorry!


 

You too are falling for a false narrative...

 

the left wing media wants to make his statement about four particular women in congress...No where did Trump mention a name or even say SHE it was THEY...

 

Only one of those 4 are not from the USA and that is Ilhan Omar...

 

so his statement as stated could only apply to ONE of the four...

 

but that will not stop the left wing and the media from making this about four specific women in congress...



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Not just the left wing... 4 Republicans agree.

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Not just the left wing... 4 Republicans agree.


 

 

So you think because four republicans jumped on your narrative it all of a sudden has to be true?

 

 

AGAIN...What was racist about the statement made by Donald Trump?

 

You know the statement that the left wing and 4 republicans condemned as racist?

 

what EXACTLY was racist about the statement?

 

 



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When a white dude tells brown people to go back where they came from, that is racist.

I'm starting to wonder what the threshold is for you to agree, does he have to actually start a genocide before you will get on board? Because racism actually happens BEFORE genocide, and it's best to identify it as such before really bad things happen. As a student of history, I thought you of all people would know this.

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When a white dude tells brown people to go back where they came from, that is racist.

I'm starting to wonder what the threshold is for you to agree, does he have to actually start a genocide before you will get on board? Because racism actually happens BEFORE genocide, and it's best to identify it as such before really bad things happen. As a student of history, I thought you of all people would know this.


 

So in your eyes only a white person can be a racist?

 

It is not about the color of their skin....

 

Where did he mention a brown person? Did he specifically call any one out by name? NO, Did he specifically call anyone out by skin color? NO Did he even specify a gender in his statement? NO

 

The they are any persons not from here that are critical of this country....

 

it is not specific to them being BROWN SKINNED or FEMALE?

 

That is what the LEFT WING wants to make it, because that is all the democrats have...is making false racial claims...



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No, there can be and are racists that aren't white, and if you would like to start a thread about them you're welcome to do so. He didn't need to call anyone out by name for us to know who he was talking about.

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No, there can be and are racists that aren't white, and if you would like to start a thread about them you're welcome to do so. He didn't need to call anyone out by name for us to know who he was talking about.


 

Actually yes he did...

 

You are assuming facts that are not there...

 

The people he called out are people from another country that are here and critical of America...

 

3 of the 4 people democrats are claiming his tweet was directed at are from the USA

 

 



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When a white dude tells brown people to go back where they came from, that is racist.


 

Remember when they used to wear them racist little leather medallions with the design of the African continent on them?

Back in the late 80's and early 90's as I kid I felt they were somewhat racist, especially since most of the people wearing them in the suburbs had never even been to Africa...

This is right about the time "we are the world" came out, starving kids in Africa! Feed the skinny Eithiopians... yadda-yadda get some musicians together and make some money.

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I can't believe you would be offended by Africa medallions being as we are all descendants of Africa if you go back far enough.

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 Inclusion is happening? Doesn't look like it?

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Shouldn't them shirts be RED WHITE AND BLUE? 



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I can't believe you would be offended by Africa medallions being as we are all descendants of Africa if you go back far enough.


 

That Obama era effort has since been rejected... 

If you go onto my Ancestry.com you will find that everyones .01% DNA has been removed from their DNA map.

It was a nice try, but it failed.



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The fossil record shows humans evolved there, why does that offend you so much?

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Eh... You are aware that back in them days, the whole world was just a single continent? Right? 

They called it Pangea, not Africa. 

I am a stickler for the details!

 



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When a white dude tells brown people to go back where they came from, that is racist.



 In you're racist mind maybe and the rest of the racist dems. Ever consider it's not about color but their words and actions? 



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When a white dude tells brown people to go back where they came from, that is racist.

 

Yet I suppose this isn't racist.

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She is perfectly capable of being racist too, it's not a white guy monopoly after all.

I'm curious about something though, specifically the threshold a white guy needs to meet for you guys to consider him racist. Do you guys think Hitler was racist? David Duke? Are there ANY white conservatives that you are willing to admit are racist, or will you instinctively circle your wagons around any conservative no matter what they may do or say?

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She is perfectly capable of being racist too, it's not a white guy monopoly after all.

I'm curious about something though, specifically the threshold a white guy needs to meet for you guys to consider him racist. Do you guys think Hitler was racist? David Duke? Are there ANY white conservatives that you are willing to admit are racist, or will you instinctively circle your wagons around any conservative no matter what they may do or say?


 

David Duke is racist....he is hardly a conservative...

 

Steven Bannon is racist....and he is a conservative...

 

I still believe Jeff Sessions is racist, but it hard to say if he still feels as he did 40 years ago...

 

No one is denying that the US still has a small number of racist...

 

not all racist are republicans...in fact some of the worst racist today are people of color and democrat...

 

YOU are a horrible racist and think you are you have some moral shield...

 

The democrats are full blown blaming everything on race now...and you have doubled down on it...

 

There is nothing racist about Donald Trump...his statements were not in the least racist because they had nothing to do with RACE...

 

 

his comments were about the comments of people here from other countries...not the skin color of the people making the comments...

 

 



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Well, at least you have correctly called out 3 on your side now, I have to give you credit for that. I honestly don't believe I am racist, but will acknowledge there are some in my party who are, and they aren't all white either. And I don't think you are either, but your singular focus on reducing tax rates has gained you some undesirable bedfellows.

That whole Bannon being a racist is sure to piss off Shawnee though. Pretty sure he's a lifetime subscriber to Breitbart.

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She is perfectly capable of being racist too, it's not a white guy monopoly after all.

I'm curious about something though, specifically the threshold a white guy needs to meet for you guys to consider him racist. Do you guys think Hitler was racist? David Duke? Are there ANY white conservatives that you are willing to admit are racist, or will you instinctively circle your wagons around any conservative no matter what they may do or say?


 

Wow, this is a polarizing statement above that illustrates the serious problem with the disease known as liberalism. 

PowerStroker endorses her religious bigotry, blames the white man while totally exonerating Omar! Then goes on to compare people in the United States to a German from Europe! confuse

They need a breathalyzer for liberalism, so we know which ones are way too drunk off the kool-aid.. I have to admit PowerStroker, you exhibit the signs of being over the legal limit!



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Omar has said some racist things about Jews that made me cringe. I'm not going to "endorse" or "exonerate" any such thing thank you very much. Racism needs to be called out no matter who says it. That said, as a first term Congresswoman from MN, her pedestal and microphone are much smaller than those of a president, so I've got to focus on the bigger fish most of the time because I have limited time in my day to rant about such things. It's like fixing car Rex... If a customer only has $500 to spend, would you recommend they fix their brakes or their radio?

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I guess that is the best part about "the squad"... Liberals don't even realize what these people are doing to their party!

An overwhelming percentage of voting Americans actually love this country, this dog and pony show by "the squad" is just re enforcing the Trump narrative to the voter!

The idea that you dismiss and make excuses for Omar because she isn't the President is sort of silly... Your appeasement on this will only create a much more dangerous animal later down the road!

Your party needs to do something NOW! I am sure most Trump supporters hope you let these vermin run around unleashed all the way up to the 2020 election! Why? Because we want a super-majority in congress going into the 2nd term!

How do we do that? Well, we just sit back and let your appeasement of these freshman race baiters to hand us another massive victory in 2020!

So keep your eye on the big blond haired distraction, don't worry about your own back yard my friend! We will mow it for you in November!



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Vermin huh, isn't that what Hitler called the Jews?



 Is / was Hilter ever an American? Are we in Germany?

Then STFU!



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It was his way of de-humanizing the Jewish people in the minds of the German citizenry so there wouldn't be as much outrage when it came time to systematically exterminate the Jews.

If you think something like Nazi Germany can't form here, you're far more optimistic than me. From my perspective, there are segments of the American people right now, who seem awfully similar to some Germans of the 1930's. Just looking for somebody to blame for their problems turned out to be one of, if not the worst tragedy of human history.

Just because it hasn't happened here yet, doesn't mean it can't.

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No it can't happen PowerStroker!

Not unless your party of socialist get in office!

Currently there are term limits to how long someone can be President - so a Hitler Dictatorship could only happen in a socialist government. 

These are the facts PowerStroker, and Hitler has NOTHING to do with America! NOTHING! In fact Hitler has much-more in common with liberal principals than conservatives. 

There is going to be a problem for sure, if you allow people to come into this country with nothing but hate and animosity in their hearts it's going to become something you cant control. 

At the point where someone like AOC, Talib or Omar represented the majority of Americans then we would be pretty much finished because I can assure you once this is a Muslim nation people like you are going to lose your heads - literally.

Wake up and smell what you're shoveling, fool! It's beyond offensive! 



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Term limits are just that, term limits. You can have a socialist system with term limits or without, just as you can have a fascist system with term limits or without.

In truth, while Hitler's political party used the word socialist in its name to try to appeal to people, it was in fact, a fascist (extreme right wing) party. And he used the same technique of racial populism to gain the support of his citizenry,that our current president uses here. Instead of convincing the working class people here that their problems are the result of Central American migrants, Hitler used the Jews. The names are different, the people are different, the play book is the same.

And so I ask you, do you believe Hitler was a racist?

Would you have much if any outrage if Trump found a way to systematically exterminate migrants from the South?



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Hey you listen here PowerStroker, I bought a black chick dinner in Miami!

And this was BEFORE I knew she was a prostitute!

So I am not racist!

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These are the facts PowerStroker, and Hitler has NOTHING to do with America! NOTHING!


 

Actually, & sadly, Mr.Hitler "did" have a great many things to do with the US-of-A...

* He took his lessons on geneology & "planned parenting" plus sterilization from the US-of-A, & the UK.

* Prescott Bush ensured financial security & privacy for many Nazi's with his role in his Bank.

* The Rockefeller's apparently supplied the Nazi War-Machine with "fossil fuels" via 6-submarines through the Canary islands. And made a healthy 200-million-dollar profit on allied lives...

* After WW-II, the capture of Mr.Hitler himself was second to the capture of his scientists. Many-of-which went on towork for NASA, but were cleared of being declared ardent Nazi's on their official reports.

There's more of course, but it's complicated & messy, though maybe worthy of discussion elsewhere...



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Well, at least you have correctly called out 3 on your side now, I have to give you credit for that. I honestly don't believe I am racist, but will acknowledge there are some in my party who are, and they aren't all white either. And I don't think you are either, but your singular focus on reducing tax rates has gained you some undesirable bedfellows.

That whole Bannon being a racist is sure to piss off Shawnee though. Pretty sure he's a lifetime subscriber to Breitbart.


 

Steve Bannon is an admitted white nationalist....which while very different from a white supremacist they still promote separating people by skin color which is in fact racist...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Term limits are just that, term limits. You can have a socialist system with term limits or without, just as you can have a fascist system with term limits or without.

In truth, while Hitler's political party used the word socialist in its name to try to appeal to people, it was in fact, a fascist (extreme right wing) party. And he used the same technique of racial populism to gain the support of his citizenry,that our current president uses here. Instead of convincing the working class people here that their problems are the result of Central American migrants, Hitler used the Jews. The names are different, the people are different, the play book is the same.

And so I ask you, do you believe Hitler was a racist?

Would you have much if any outrage if Trump found a way to systematically exterminate migrants from the South?



-- Edited by PowerStroker on Thursday 18th of July 2019 11:14:06 PM


 

 

Name a socialist system in use today without a dictator at the top?

 

There are no elections in Cuba....



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When a white dude tells brown people to go back where they came from, that is racist.

I'm starting to wonder what the threshold is for you to agree, does he have to actually start a genocide before you will get on board? Because racism actually happens BEFORE genocide, and it's best to identify it as such before really bad things happen. As a student of history, I thought you of all people would know this.


 

 

No it is not...unless he is telling the person to go back to their own country because of their brown skin...

 

it is not racist to tell someone who claims to hate our country to leave...skin color has nothing to do with it...

 

but the left wing is going to make EVERY SINGLE ISSUE ABOUT SKIN COLOR NOW....

 

just more shit that will turn off the more centrist vote from the middle...

 

Keep on doubling down democrats....you will destroy any chance at 2020 before the primaries even begin...

 



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Name a socialist system in use today without a dictator at the top?

 


 

Scandinavian countries.



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Name a socialist system in use today without a dictator at the top?

 


 

Scandinavian countries.

 

 

Not one Scandinavian country is a socialist country....

 

ALL of them are capitalist systems...

 

ALL of them are also privatizing their pension plans because that is what has made their taxes the highest on the planet and now it is not sustainable and they know it...

 

The only socialist country at present is Cuba...



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She is perfectly capable of being racist too, it's not a white guy monopoly after all.

I'm curious about something though, specifically the threshold a white guy needs to meet for you guys to consider him racist. Do you guys think Hitler was racist? David Duke? Are there ANY white conservatives that you are willing to admit are racist, or will you instinctively circle your wagons around any conservative no matter what they may do or say?


 

 

A white guy (person) is racist when their comments are motivated by skin color...

 

when a person of color makes horrible statements about this country...calling them out on it is not racism...

 

you sit back and describe the right wing as a bunch of hillbilly racist...which you know is far from true....

 

you claim it is those on the right that circle the wagons on issues of race...

 

yet it is the left that is trying to make every issue about skin color...



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Well, If we both agree Socialism isn't the correct term to describe the Scandinavian countries, what would the correct term be? Because THAT is what I want here, which by your own admission is NOT socialism.

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Well, If we both agree Socialism isn't the correct term to describe the Scandinavian countries, what would the correct term be? Because THAT is what I want here, which by your own admission is NOT socialism.


 

Then you are an advocate of universal healthcare and not a single payer or two tier system, you are for 60% income taxes across the boards...which just so you know that is THREE times what we are at currently...and a privatized Social Security as that is where the Scandinavian countries are moving to...

 

I personally do not think a backed up healthcare system is worth 60% taxes. I am in favor of privatizing Social Security as that is the only way to keep the current politicians from spending the excess and leaving a IOU...

 

 



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Yeah, that's what I'm and advocate of, not socialism then.

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Yeah, that's what I'm and advocate of, not socialism then.


 Then I suggest moving to a Scandinavian country as it will never happen here in the US.

 

and you claim you want Medicare for all. Medicare for all would cost al Americans more than  60% 

 

Universal Healthcare is rationed government own hospitals...Think VA for all...not Medicare for all.



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Name a socialist system in use today without a dictator at the top?

 


 

Scandinavian countries.



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 Bullshit. Research before you spew. Big difference.

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Well, If we both agree Socialism isn't the correct term to describe the Scandinavian countries, what would the correct term be? Because THAT is what I want here, which by your own admission is NOT socialism.


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They are all Free Market Economies,,,

 

They have heavy taxation and large social programs....

 

And it is not just the RICH that get soaked...

 

The taxation is much flatter than the progressive scale in the United States...

 

So the entire population is paying very high taxes not just the rich....

 

And finally they have tiny population compared to the United States meaning they have a lot less dead beats to care for...

 

You should really do some research PowerStroker...I think you may change your mind about wanting to model the US after Scandinavian countries...

 

Such policies here would create massive poverty and rapidly...

 

 

 



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