Your country is really messed-up imo.

Rastus wrote:

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Your country is really messed-up imo.

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Just another day in the U.S.A. 

Nothing really messed up about our rights to carry Rastus... What's messed up is someone with a skateboard trying to attack someone armed with an AR! Darwin Award winner there!

Your ignorance of the facts is showing Rastus! Furthermore, this is America! We shoot people who make such demands to lay down our weapons! Just ask the British! What right did these riotors have to ask someone who is legally open carrying to lay down their weapon? And then when he refused they pointed a gun at him, tried to crack him over the head with a skateboard while making verbal threats to his life? No, I think the guy had every right to stand up for his rights and defend himself! 

I think youre looking for trouble with this BS narrative above Rastus! These rioters were looking for trouble that night and they found it! They were not innocent and they were not victims. 

Your thoughts about people being able to open carry vs concealed is also bullocks! A persons right to defend themselves does not end when they leave the house! 

Loss of life is never a good thing, but in this case it was either his life or theirs... And what do you think would have happend if Kyle had allowed these animals to take his weapon? A weapon he was rightfully allowed to open carry?

And the way people like you and the media tried to twist this up! The Prosecutor should be facing some kind of sanctions for his stunts in the courtroom, and its all too common today for these prosecutors to overstep their bounds and cheat. It's just a good thing Kyle had a good legal team or I think the liberal media would have robbed him of a fair trial!

Ohhh, upon looking into this, the civil unrest in Kenosha was due to another case of police shooting an unarmed black man, which obviously spawned protests, and then Kyle Rittenhouse decided to take a trip there with an assault rifle to get where all the action was, and ended up killing 2 protesters and blowing the bicep off a 3rd. So now that he has gotten away without any criminal consequences, it's a win for conservatives who don't believe in protests generally and are happy about police brutality toward black people. Pretty much any authoritarian rule with an iron fist is great for conservatives, especially if it is extra harsh toward minorities and silences any objections to said policies with force and/or murder.

I get it now. So you'll probably be in a good mood for a full week or two over this one huh Rex?

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Saturday 20th of November 2021 11:17:08 AM

I think this is more a case of authoritarianism vs democracy instead of white vs black for the reasons you stated yourself. But with your typical pattern of behavior you have to understand why race was my first thought.

Regarding George Floyd... His actual cause of death was pressure induced asphyxiation, and a bad cop was convicted by a jury of his peers of being the cause after extensive medical and witness testimony. This theory you have of drugs causing George Floyd's death instead of the 9.5 minutes of his neck being crushed is just another example of your racism, and how you instinctively invent falsehoods to blame black people for their murder. By the way, it's also why I assumed that race was probably your motivating force this time. I'd say it's nice to be wrong, but I'm not sure whether authoritarianism is any better than racism, in fact, it might be worse.

You're really batting a thousand there Rex. You're not passing these values to your children are you?

Hmmm...

Probably we should set-up hot-dog stands, cotton-candy stands & some hamburger stalls & of course mobile public toilets the next time something like this happens...

As Mr.Trumpdt would say, "Now that would be MAGA"...

Oh Rex, I was more concerned with values like authoritarianism and racism. Certainly it's usually a good idea to not resist arrest, even better to not put yourself in that situation in the first place.

You're right about one thing... Not being black I don't fully comprehend the black experience in America. I try to be somewhat of a student of history and use my imagination, but I'll never fully comprehend it no matter how much I try. The remark you made about sticking up for themselves seems naieve. Especially when what they are up against is a society with built in systemic racism in the justice system, and police departments who generally have good people for the most part, but most also have some really bad apples like the one who shot Jacob Blake in the back 7 times leaving him paralized for the rest of his life. It was that act that sparked the protests in Kenosha, and rightfully so. What Kyle Rittenhouse did beyond the killing and maiming of 3 protesters, is to set a precedent that you can murder protesters without any recourse. This is a recipe for a very ugly downward spiral into the type of society that embodied Germany in the 1930's. Just imagine if we allowed racist authoritarian fascism to take hold here in America like was attempted on 1/6. With our military, nobody would ever be able to defeat it, and the world would be plunged into perpetual evil. No Rex, this is NOT patriotism. The right to protest without fear of being murdered for it, is an absolute necessity to prevent said evil from taking hold, and to maintain a conscience driven society. And it's why the right to protest was written into the first amendment of the Constitution by the TRUE patriots who wrote it. The true patriots of Kenosha were the victims of Kyle Rittenhouse.

Can you honestly say that shooting Jacob Blake in the back 7 times was justified, or are you just assuming it based on his skin color? By now I certainly don't expect that you would ever shed a single tear if a white person were shot in the back several times, it would just roll right off you like trivia. There was no mention from you about Brian Laundrie because white people killing white people simply doesn't matter either way to you. But when it happens to a black man, it's interesting how you automatically assume he was resisting arrest or it was somehow justified. It's interesting how you start a thread to make a point about praising the actions of the kid who killed the people who dared protest against such injustice. Rex, if that's not racism, then what do you call it because it ain't patriotism?

 

-- Edited by PowerStroker on Sunday 21st of November 2021 12:38:49 AM

PowerStroker wrote:

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Oh Rex, I was more concerned with values like authoritarianism and racism. Certainly it's usually a good idea to not resist arrest, even better to not put yourself in that situation in the first place.

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Authoritarianism?

I think you better look in the fucking mirror pal! It's DEMOCRATS that are MANDATING vaccines! That is the ONLY authoritarianism I see going on in this world right now!

 

PowerStroker wrote:

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 You're right about one thing... Not being black I don't fully comprehend the black experience in America. I try to be somewhat of a student of history and use my imagination, but I'll never fully comprehend it no matter how much I try. The remark you made about sticking up for themselves seems naieve. Especially when what they are up against is a society with built in systemic racism in the justice system, and police departments who generally have good people for the most part, but most also have some really bad apples like the one who shot Jacob Blake in the back 7 times leaving him paralized for the rest of his life. It was that act that sparked the protests in Kenosha, and rightfully so. What Kyle Rittenhouse did beyond the killing and maiming of 3 protesters, is to set a precedent that you can murder protesters without any recourse. This is a recipe for a very ugly downward spiral into the type of society that embodied Germany in the 1930's.

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Oh, now you're a fucking Jew living in Germany during the 1930's? GTFOH! How about you just be you and quit trying to be everyone else for a minute and look at what the hell is going on here! Good people are suffering because of your bullshit! Business owners are having their businesses torched, the people of the community are losing places to shop and get the items they need! Tax payers are having to pay ten times the amount of what it would take to hire police to take out this trash! Screw your bleeding heart pouring out for these animals that think they are so righteous they can destroy, steal and desecrate the property of others! Your right to protest ends at private property lines! Because you're upset about something does NOT give you the right to block traffic or cause other innocent people going about their lives disruption! You start crossing that line and you're looking for trouble! And we all know what happens when you go looking for trouble!

 

PowerStroker wrote:

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Just imagine if we allowed racist authoritarian fascism to take hold here in America like was attempted on 1/6. With our military, nobody would ever be able to defeat it, and the world would be plunged into perpetual evil. No Rex, this is NOT patriotism. The right to protest without fear of being murdered for it, is an absolute necessity to prevent said evil from taking hold, and to maintain a conscience driven society. And it's why the right to protest was written into the first amendment of the Constitution by the TRUE patriots who wrote it. The true patriots of Kenosha were the victims of Kyle Rittenhouse.

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Just imagine what would have happend on 1/6 if everyone was carrying their AR? I don't think just some unarmed woman would have been shot, which you seem to justify as an acceptable loss! The world is plunged into perpetual evil! Wake the fuck up! You supposed to be "woke" but from where I'm standing it looks like your ass is asleep and dreaming! The right to protest does not mean the right to infringe on and destroy other peoples property or disrupt their lives! Kyle was invited to Kenosha that night at the request of a private business because the police werent doing anything to stop these RIOTS... and that's what they are when things start getting set on fire or looted! At that point it's no longer a protest! It's a riot! The true patriot on 1/6 was Ashley Babbit and the true patriot on the night of the Kenosha "riot" was Kyle Rittenhouse! I am starting to think your brain is miswired, or perhaps there is a bad ground up there.

 

PowerStroker wrote:

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Can you honestly say that shooting Jacob Blake in the back 7 times was justified, or are you just assuming it based on his skin color? By now I certainly don't expect that you would ever shed a single tear if a white person were shot in the back several times, it would just roll right off you like trivia. There was no mention from you about Brian Laundrie because white people killing white people simply doesn't matter either way to you. But when it happens to a black man, it's interesting how you automatically assume he was resisting arrest or it was somehow justified. It's interesting how you start a thread to make a point about praising the actions of the kid who killed the people who dared protest against such injustice. Rex, if that's not racism, then what do you call it because it ain't patriotism?

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WTF!? Kyle Rittenhouse did not shoot Jacob Blake! Stay on fucking topic! What the Kenosha Police did doesn't justify any of these attacks on small business! They should have taken it up with the Kenosha Police Department! But they didn't? Why? Because they know they would have been shot dead! So what did they do? They preyed on the soft underbelly and decided to take it out on innocent people! Only this time the soft underbelly fought back and called for help! Doesn't said constitution call for a well armed militia in times where there is lawlessness or tyranny? Tyranny is not just exclusive to the Government PowerStroker! Miswired folks like yourself can also be capable of tyranny with your little riots of Self-righteousness. 

Sit on it!

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What about the right of the innocent to pass and carry on with their lives without the fear of being looted, beaten or having their property destroyed due to these "protest?" 

Let us call them what they are, FLAT OUT RIOTS! Peaceful protests don't make headlines for days or weeks. Wake the fuck up mate!

Are you suggesting the ends justify the means Rastus? If that's your position then you better praise the Lord and pass the ammo!

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If you're talking about the rights of innocent members of Congress to carry on with their lives and duties on 1/6 I would agree.

Yes, the members of Congress were innocent. The only reason for perceived grievences is because right wing media has been touting conspiracy theories.

Mom & Pop shops are insignificant compared to democracy itself.

If looting is happening somewhere, there is a criminal justice system to deal with it, and civil courts to enforce the repayment of damages. Murder is not an acceptable solution to such problems.

'Some fatalities' after SUV speeds into Christmas parade

https://www.yahoo.com/news/suv-speeds-christmas-parade-suburban-001359116.html

 

MADNESS!

PowerStroker wrote:

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 Murder is not an acceptable solution to such problems.

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You were saying?

 

Maybe you should ask that to your black BLM pal who drove his SUV thru a Christmas parade killing five elderly and one child?

Did that link above just fly right over your head?

What is to talk about there? Is it a big story that "some people did something" and eventually paid the price?

Tragic? For sure!

Although I don't think Arbery will be jogging in that neck of the woods anytime soon.

Trying to change the topic? Don't want to speak for BLM? Then why are you advertising for them in your signature?

No-no... we are talking about YOU now, PowerStroker! The people responsible for Arbery have already been tried and convicted of their crimes... 

We want to know the extent of your affiliation with BLM that you go parading around their slogan in every one of your post.

We are talking about the five innocent people and one child who died while one of your BLM members went out and drove his SUV thru a Christmas parade!

It's all right there in the media, despite their efforts to supress it... 

We all like to know your groups stance on the Christmas parade massacre...