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For this country to survive we also need this policy. (Australian)


Got got this e-mail and I must admit it seems like good policy for the USA also. With all of the talk about voting if English is the primary language and some schools wanting to take GOD out of the pledge of allegiance I think it’s high time we take a standpoint that lets people know that if they want to live life like they did in some other country they should just go there.


Very good e-mail. Hope it catches on here! 


>For this country to survive we also need this
> > policy. (Australian)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law
> > were told on Wednesday to
> > get out of Australia, as the government targeted
> > radicals in a bid to head
> > off potential terror attacks.
> >
> >
> >
> > A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders
> > pledged loyalty to
> > Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with
> > Prime Minister John
> > Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that
> > extremists would face a
> > crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir
> > apparent to Howard,
> > hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to
> > leave the country if they
> > did not accept that Australia was a secular state,
> > and its laws were made by
> > parliament.
> >
> > "If those are not your values, if you want a country
> > which has Sharia law or
> > a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you,"
> > he said on national
> > television.
> >
> >
> >
> > "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that
> > there are two laws governing
> > people in Australia: One the Australian law and
> > another the Islamic law that
> > is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary
> > law, independent courts,
> > democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the
> > opportunity to go to
> > another country, which practices it, perhaps, then,
> > that's a better
> > option," Costello said.
> >
> > Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be
> > forced to leave, he said
> > those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked
> > to move to the other
> > country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later
> > told reporters that
> > Muslims who did not want to accept local values
> > should "clear off."
> > Basically people who don't want to be Australians,
> > and who don't want to
> > live by Australian values and understand them, well
> > then, they can
> > basically "clear off", he said.
> >
> > Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims
> > on Wednesday by saying he
> > supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's
> > mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS,
> > NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It.
> > I am tired of this
> > nation worrying about whether we are offending some
> > individual or their
> > culture. Since the terrorist
> > Attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in
> > patriotism by the majority
> > of Australians."
> >
> > "However, the dust from the attacks had barely
> > settled when the 'politically
> > correct' crowd began complaining about the
> > possibility that our patriotism
> > was offending others. I am not against immigration,
> > nor do I hold a grudge
> > against anyone who is seeking a better life by
> > coming to Australia."
> >
> > "However, there are a few things that those who have
> > recently come to our
> > country, and apparently some born here, need to
> > understand."
> >
> > "This idea of Australia being a multicultural
> > community has served only to
> > dilute our sovereignty and our national identity.
> > As Australians, we have
> > our own culture, our own society, our own language
> > and our own lifestyle."
> >
> > "This culture has been developed over two centuries
> > of struggles, trials and
> > victories by millions of men and women who have
> > sought freedom."
> >
> > "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese,
> > Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
> > Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you
> > wish to become part of
> > our society, learn the language."
> >
> > "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some
> > Christian, right wing
> > political push, but a fact, because Christian men
> > and women, on Christian
> > principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
> > documented. It is
> > certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of
> > our schools. If God
> > offends you, then I suggest you consider another
> > part of the world as your
> > new home, because God is part of our culture"
> >
> > "We will! accept your beliefs and will not question
> > why. All we ask is that
> > you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful
> > enjoyment with us."
> >
> > "If the Southern Cross offends you or you don't like
> > "A Fair Go," then you
> > should seriously consider a move to another part of
> > this planet. We are
> > happy with our culture and have no desire to change,
> > and we really don't
> > care how you did things where you came from. By all
> > means, keep your
> > culture, but do not force it on others.
> >
> > "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE,
> > and we will allow you
> > every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you
> > are done complaining,
> > whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our
> > Christian beliefs, or
> > Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take
> > advantage of one other great
> > Australian freedom, THE RIGHT TO
> > LEAVE."
> >
> > If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't
> > force you to come here.
> > You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU
> > accepted."
> >
> > Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves,
> > American citizens will find
> > the backbone to start speaking and voting the same
> > truths ! !
> >



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Yes, there seems to be a big push to demonize the Christian faith while giving more consideration to Islamic beliefs.

For example, more and more you see people trying to remove any and all references to god and the Holy Cross. You can not deny that PowerStroker!

Meanwhile we have soldiers who are on trial for burning crates of Koran's! Whats worse is these men were not even aware of what was in the crates they were burning, they were following orders! Yet our Muslim President went out of his way to apologize for the error, feeding the myth that America is Islamaphobic.

Obama is trying to undermine the entire nation, after all it was Obama that said "America is no longer a Christian nation".. If you need the video I can post it.

Hell! The only reason Obama hasn't tried to remove the "In god we trust" on our currency is because by the time he gets done running this nation into the ground our dollar wont be worth the paper it's written on. He enjoys making a mockery of anything American in a thinly veiled way.



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Is there a big push to implement Sharia law here that I'm unaware of???

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Yes, there seems to be a big push to demonize the Christian faith while giving more consideration to Islamic beliefs.

That doesn't mean anyone is trying to implement Sharia Law here.  Can you name a single member of congress who has introduced a bill to do so?

For example, more and more you see people trying to remove any and all references to god and the Holy Cross. You can not deny that PowerStroker!

You are free to have such symbols on private property.  On publicly owned land it's usually a good idea to have a seperation of church and state.

Meanwhile we have soldiers who are on trial for burning crates of Koran's! Whats worse is these men were not even aware of what was in the crates they were burning, they were following orders! Yet our Muslim President went out of his way to apologize for the error, feeding the myth that America is Islamaphobic.

They're not on trial in this country for it, so it's really not an example of Sharia Law taking hold here.

Obama is trying to undermine the entire nation, after all it was Obama that said "America is no longer a Christian nation".. If you need the video I can post it.

America has a Christian majority in it's population, however the Government should always be secular so as not to infringe on the religious liberties of the people.

Hell! The only reason Obama hasn't tried to remove the "In god we trust" on our currency is because by the time he gets done running this nation into the ground our dollar wont be worth the paper it's written on. He enjoys making a mockery of anything American in a thinly veiled way.

I wasn't aware Obama tried to do that, could you post a link so I can check it out?



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SELLC wrote:

Yes, there seems to be a big push to demonize the Christian faith while giving more consideration to Islamic beliefs.

That doesn't mean anyone is trying to implement Sharia Law here.  Can you name a single member of congress who has introduced a bill to do so?

So far there hasn't been any attempt to implement Sharia Law nationally, HOWEVER in Dearborne Michigan (where a lot of Arabs live) they actually tried to petition that they have separate courts to try their cases under Sharia Law! Don't believe me? Google it!

For example, more and more you see people trying to remove any and all references to god and the Holy Cross. You can not deny that PowerStroker!

You are free to have such symbols on private property.  On publicly owned land it's usually a good idea to have a seperation of church and state.

So by that rationel why do we have "In God we Trust" on our currency? Why does President Obama celebrate Ramadan at the White House? Did you not get the memo about the big party that was thrown at the White House with Obama as the host? I am pretty sure that while the White House is a nice place, it's still in the realm of "Government Housing", at least as it pertains to Obama anyway. Bush spent most of his time working from home at his ranch in Texas. Meanwhile Obama is trying to save Fanny and Freddy and his $1 million dollar home purchased with the help of such Government lenders. How does that old song go? One nation, UNDER GOD.

Meanwhile we have soldiers who are on trial for burning crates of Koran's! Whats worse is these men were not even aware of what was in the crates they were burning, they were following orders! Yet our Muslim President went out of his way to apologize for the error, feeding the myth that America is Islamaphobic.

They're not on trial in this country for it, so it's really not an example of Sharia Law taking hold here.

Really? I am going to forward that statement to some Marines I know that live in MN, who just happen to drive PowerStroke trucks. Maybe they could use some service on their trucks.

Obama is trying to undermine the entire nation, after all it was Obama that said "America is no longer a Christian nation".. If you need the video I can post it.

America has a Christian majority in it's population, however the Government should always be secular so as not to infringe on the religious liberties of the people.

And that works both ways. So fuck off!

Hell! The only reason Obama hasn't tried to remove the "In god we trust" on our currency is because by the time he gets done running this nation into the ground our dollar wont be worth the paper it's written on. He enjoys making a mockery of anything American in a thinly veiled way.

I wasn't aware Obama tried to do that, could you post a link so I can check it out?

One only needs to look at the rate Obama is printing money. Try doing a google search on the word INFLATION, I think you will find many links that are relevant.

 


 


 



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So far there hasn't been any attempt to implement Sharia Law nationally, HOWEVER in Dearborne Michigan (where a lot of Arabs live) they actually tried to petition that they have separate courts to try their cases under Sharia Law! Don't believe me? Google it!

Oh I believe they tried it, but I highly doubt any Republicans or Democrats supported it, or that it ever ended up happening.  There's always some controversey somewhere that will never end up actually happening.  Has Obama taken your guns away yet?  Yeah, that's what I thought.

So by that rationel why do we have "In God we Trust" on our currency?

It doesn't identify a specific God

Why does President Obama celebrate Ramadan at the White House?

Why did Bush?

Did you not get the memo about the big party that was thrown at the White House with Obama as the host? I am pretty sure that while the White House is a nice place, it's still in the realm of "Government Housing", at least as it pertains to Obama anyway.

The White House is both a government building, and the private residence of the president who can throw any party he wants there.  Like this one...

Bush spent most of his time working from home at his ranch in Texas.

You mean occasionally pretending to clear some brush on his "ranch" that didn't actually have any animals?

Meanwhile Obama is trying to save Fanny and Freddy and his $1 million dollar home purchased with the help of such Government lenders. How does that old song go? One nation, UNDER GOD.

I'm sure Obama is current on his payments, so Fanny and Freddie should make a nice profit for the taxpayers from the Obama mortgage, you're welcome.

 

One only needs to look at the rate Obama is printing money. Try doing a google search on the word INFLATION, I think you will find many links that are relevant.

Obama has absolutely no control over the rate at which money is printed.  Ben Bernanke and the Federal Reserve Board of Governors have that power exclusively. 

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The Federal Reserve Board of Governors is the main governing body of the Federal Reserve System. It is charged with overseeing the 12 District Reserve Banks and with helping implement national monetary policy. Governors are appointed by the President of the United States and confirmed by the Senate for staggered, 14-year terms. By law, the appointments must yield a "fair representation of the financial, agricultural, industrial, and commercial interests and geographical divisions of the country", and as stipulated in the Banking Act of 1935, the Chairman and Vice Chairman of the Board are two of seven members of the Board of Governors who are appointed by the President from among the sitting Governors.[1][2] As an independent federal government agency,[3] the Board of Governors does not receive funding from Congress, and the terms of the seven members of the Board span multiple presidential and congressional terms. Once a member of the Board of Governors is appointed by the president, he or she functions mostly independently. The Board is required to make an annual report of operations to the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives.[4] It also supervises and regulates the operations of the Federal Reserve Banks, and the U.S. banking system in general.
 
Membership is by statute limited in term, and a member that has served for a full 14 year term is not eligible for reappointment.[5] There are numerous occasions where an individual was appointed to serve the remainder of another member's uncompleted term, and has been reappointed to serve a full 14-year term.[5] Since "upon the expiration of their terms of office, members of the Board shall continue to serve until their successors are appointed and have qualified",[5] it is possible for a member to serve for significantly longer than a full term of 14 years. The law provides for the removal of a member of the Board by the President "for cause".[5]
 
The current members of the Board of Governors are as follows:[6]
 


Commissioner
 
Entered office[7]
 
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January 31, 2020
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Janet Yellen
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October 4, 2010
 
January 31, 2024
 October 4, 2014 (as Vice Chairman)
 


Vacant
 

 

 

Elizabeth A. Duke
 
August 5, 2008
 
January 31, 2012
 


Daniel Tarullo
 
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Sarah Bloom Raskin
 
October 4, 2010
 
January 31, 2016
 


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I think Bush wants the US to replace the Constitution with Sharia law.


 



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 Oh I believe they tried it, but I highly doubt any Republicans or Democrats supported it, or that it ever ended up happening.  There's always some controversey somewhere that will never end up actually happening.  Has Obama taken your guns away yet?  Yeah, that's what I thought.

Well PowerStroker it bothers me that they tried. This is America! Our justice system was good enough for them when they come here, but now they want to be diffrent than everyone else? It just does not sit right with me.

And with regards to Obama taking guns... He is trying, but as it stands he knows he's still a 1st term president and as such will not rock the boat just yet. You can take that to the bank!

It doesn't identify a specific God

So? What about the atheist? They don't count in your version of America?

The White House is both a government building, and the private residence of the president who can throw any party he wants there.  Like this one...

Good for him! Section 8 housing is much the same, in that it's a private government subsidized residence where people can do as they like.

You mean occasionally pretending to clear some brush on his "ranch" that didn't actually have any animals?

Have you ever seen Obama work a day in his life? Even to clear brushes? Has Obama ever been filmed doing work outside of running his mouth? I'd like to see that video if you have it.

I'm sure Obama is current on his payments, so Fanny and Freddie should make a nice profit for the taxpayers from the Obama mortgage, you're welcome.

Well you seem to overlook the fact that he got a loan from them for MORE than the limits. Guess it pays to have friends like Rham, who at the time just happened to be in charge of that government program. Has there been any videos released that show Obama raking leaves, clearing brush, or shoveling snow at that house? Guess that's too much like work for the golden child. 

 

Obama has absolutely no control over the rate at which money is printed.  Ben Bernanke and the Federal Reserve Board of Governors have that power exclusively. 

Do you ever bother to read the stuff you post BEFORE you post it?


The Federal Reserve Board of Governors is the main governing body of the Federal Reserve System. It is charged with overseeing the 12 District Reserve Banks and with helping implement national monetary policy. Governors are appointed by the President of the United States and confirmed by the Senate for staggered, 14-year terms.  

 So yeah, I guess it is the President who controls the Federal Reserve after all. After all he picks the guy to run it! And wasnt a Democratic super majority in effect when Obama nominated Ben? Yeah you can shut your mouth now PowerStroker, you just proved my point. Thank you!

I think Bush wants the US to replace the Constitution with Sharia law.

See that's your problem. You DONT think.


 



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I wanted to respond to this video exclusively because honestly I feel Bush did an absolute STELLAR job with his speech! For the first time in a very long time I have been moved by a Presidential speech.

And I personally know some Muslim folks (customers actually) who are very upstanding people and I enjoy when they come to have their vehicles fixed. They open my eyes to the fact that not all Muslims are evil, and that while our views differ we can co-exist. It's been a VERY long time since I have felt comfort hearing a President speak, in fact I thank you very much PowerStroker for posting that video.. Honestly, no joking around... Thank you.

What I have learned here is just what Bush has said,  Evil has no holy day! All this time I have thought Obama was a closet radical Muslim, now I realize that Obama is not Muslim, he is just plain EVIL! Thank you PowerStroker! I have seen the light tonight!

Notice how Bush was able to honor the Muslim faith, while still standing up for his own? That man (Bush) may have been the greatest President and public speaker I have ever known in my lifetime. I didn't see any teleprompters in the room, and his speech sounded natural and from the heart, unlike Obama's speeches that often feel like and advertisement pitch, or a late night infomercial.

Now I will address your other statements in a separate reply, but from now on I will not degenerate the Muslim faith by calling Obama a Muslim, from now on just reffer to him as Evil.

Evil Obama, the great divider of the world.



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The only appointment to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors that Obama has made was to re-appoint Ben Bernanke for a second term as chairman. It was Bush that gave him the job the first time, so I'm a bit confused how you can blame Obama for the rate at which money is being printed when he is simply continuing the Bush policy at the Fed.

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Well it's quite obvious Ben had to please Obama by printing more money to keep his job.

Bernanke was confirmed for a second term as Chairman on January 28, 2010, after being nominated by President Barack Obama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bernanke

PROOF that the President does control the FED. In essence Obama is Ben's boss. If he does not pander to Obamas wishes he simply will not be nominated aka FIRED, and Obama would simply find someone else to do his bidding.

Nice try though!



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I seem to recall the fed ramping up the printing presses during the Bush administration, around the time Bush bailed out the banks.

The Federal Reserve is not a partisan organization despite your conspiracy theories. Their mandate is to adjust interest rates at such a level to allow for maximum employment with minimum inflation, not to pander to a political party or president.

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I seem to recall the fed ramping up the printing presses during the Bush administration, around the time Bush bailed out the banks.

Ramping up, and printing like it's going out of style are two different animals.

The Federal Reserve is not a partisan organization despite your conspiracy theories. Their mandate is to adjust interest rates at such a level to allow for maximum employment with minimum inflation, not to pander to a political party or president.

You keep telling yourself that PowerStroker.


 



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It's hard to believe sometimes that Rastus hails from Australia with his liberal mindset.. lol



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I seem to recall the fed ramping up the printing presses during the Bush administration, around the time Bush bailed out the banks.

The Federal Reserve is not a partisan organization despite your conspiracy theories. Their mandate is to adjust interest rates at such a level to allow for maximum employment with minimum inflation, not to pander to a political party or president.


 Actually TARP signed by Bush is what PAVED the road for quantitative easing....

 

but do not kid yourself about who used it...

 

TARP allowed the Federal Reserve to buy treasury notes directly from the treasury...

 

prior to TARP the Federal Reserve could only purchase matured treasury notes...IE (make good on the principal)

 

TARP allowed the US Government to in FACT borrow directly from the Federal Reserve, which should never be allowed...we never should have allowed the Federal Reserve to hold US Treasury debt...

 

in 1913 it was illegal...after WWI they changed it so the Federal Reserve could buy Bonds reaching maturity...(make good on the principal)

 

To Date since the creation of the Fed in 1913, the United States government has never paid one cent of principal back...EVER...only interest...

 



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